After translating client wants my TM - charges?

Ricardo Martinez de la Torre wrote:

You can, however, after translating the client's documents, create a new TM and perform the cleanup function, making sure that you have selected "Update TM". That will create a TM with only the client's segments in the TM.

You can provide that at no cost, since the client can do it himself by just requesting that you deliver "uncleaned" files.

Ricardo

[Edited at 2004-08-11 21:02]

Günter whittome wrote:

Basically, the tools I use are none of client's business. He/She (I'll use "he" in a generic sense asks for a flawless translation and he gets a flawless translation. What tools I use to achieve this is my own know-how. If I ask someone to come into my house and repair the wiring, I don't care what tools he uses, I just want it repaired so that I can use the electricity reliably and safely. If, however I know of a certain tool that enhances quality and safety I may ask him, if he uses it. In this sense I may tell a client "Yes I do use TM and terminology management".
Giving away TMs and/or glossaries that I have built up during the years is of course out of the question, that's not what we're talking about. We're only talking about segments from the client's specific job assignment. And, by the way, the client would need a TM with the same structure, segmentation rules, that I use, otherwise it won't work properly.
You did make a point, however, by saying, if I don't provide the client with the TM he "could" create it himself from the source and target files or from an uncleaned document. He "could", but "would" he? Aligning documents can be a quite tedious and boring task and the source text is not always provided as a file but only on hardcopy. In such a case, to get started, I have to first scan and edit the source text which can be quite time consuming,too - and no way to charge for that.
When the client gets a TM from me, I save him all these tasks - and that is what he should pay for - and he gets a boost in productivity for nothing. I feel a surcharge of 50% would be appropriate, but probably difficult to be accepted under the circumstances. I'll probably charge something like 20-30% extra.
We shouldn't give our assets away too readily. In Germany, translator is not a protected profession (in the sense that anybody can call him/herself a translator). Respect for our profession begins with how much we value it ourselves. As someone else put it in another posting: if respect decreases, earnings will too.
As to setting up a TM at the client's premises I'll think of an hourly, half-day or daily rate as appropriate. After doing it once, calculating one lump sum may be a good thing.
Thanks again to everybody.

Günter whittome wrote:

A prospective client wants me to provide him with the relevant TM after I've finished the translation. How shall I charge him for it? Sometimes you get the impression clients want our TMs as a kind of litte "extra" for free. An idea that I categorically oppose. All the effort and know-how we put into it, esp. in my case with German/English Chinese! In my view the client profits from it anyway through high terminology and translation consistency. So, I may be prepared to sell my TM to the client but I'm not prepared to give it to him for free.
Any suggestions? Maybe double price? Or plus 50%? After all, if the client can use my TM, he can save costs in the future by reducing job assignments to me.
2nd question: how to charge the client if he wants me to set up a TM for him from scratch? I suppose my presence would certainly be needed on site - maybe charge by daily rate, similar to interpreting? How many days would be reasonable?
Günter Whittome