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| Do not contact Lingvopoint | Nov 18, 2014 |
Dear colleagues! I urge you not to contact Lingvopoint. By doing so you're disclosing your real email address and your identity to these scammers. Once they know your contact information nothing will stop them from creating an email address that looks like yours.
| | | | | No copyright transfer | Nov 18, 2014 |
Carlos González-Rivera wrote:
How did "Eleni Margarita" know I was complaining if I never wrote to her in the first place?
The web hosting company told her.
Carlos González-Rivera wrote:
After all, once we post our picture on any online service (including ProZ), we cease to own copyright for it.
Where did you read that? The Terms of Use do not say that you hand over copyright to Proz of anything. If Proz suddenly owned the copyright, then you couldn't even use your own description and photo elsewhere without Proz's permission.
Carlos González-Rivera wrote:
Also, I don't think we should be treating this as a copyright infringement.
It's a very effective way of having such pirated content taken down. Why not use it?
Carlos González-Rivera wrote:
I believe this should all be on the lines of identity theft, actually.
http://www.justice.gov/criminal/fraud/websites/idtheft.html says:
"Identity theft and identity fraud are terms used to refer to all types of crime in which someone wrongfully obtains and uses another person's personal data in some way that involves fraud or deception, typically for economic gain."
So yes, perhaps it is also identity theft, but they quick and easy way to get the stuff removed is to complain about copyright infringement.
The trouble with reporting such things to the authorities is that they may not have time to deal with everything, and it can be immensely complicated to identify the competent jurisdiction and the offender.
| | | | | good advice about not contacting/responding to this "Eleni" | Nov 19, 2014 |
Tomás and Dmitry -- you're both right, we should *not* be responding to these so-called apology e-mails from Eleni or contacting Lingvopoint: there's a good chance, as you point out, that they will simply harvest "live" e-mails for further fraud.
So I stand corrected and I take back what I recommended before (bombarding Eleni with mass e-mails demanding an explanation). It shows how easy it is to fall into the illusion of thinking these are real people. Thanks for your more vigi... See more Tomás and Dmitry -- you're both right, we should *not* be responding to these so-called apology e-mails from Eleni or contacting Lingvopoint: there's a good chance, as you point out, that they will simply harvest "live" e-mails for further fraud.
So I stand corrected and I take back what I recommended before (bombarding Eleni with mass e-mails demanding an explanation). It shows how easy it is to fall into the illusion of thinking these are real people. Thanks for your more vigilant advice! ▲ Collapse
| | | | | Action from Proz? | Nov 20, 2014 |
Will any action be taken by Proz on behalf of us?
Most of us do pay for membership and would expect this kind of forgery not to occur as often as it is.
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| | | Some answers or statement from Proz please | Nov 23, 2014 |
Jared, I think one of the reasons people have become unhappy with Proz (apart from the actual security problem), is that lack of public announcement or notification. Anyone who hasn't seen this thread or been on Linkedin may be completely unaware, and I think they have the right to be informed.
I think Proz needs to send out a message, or at least put a prominent notice on the home page about this incident, and warn translators to be vigilant, perhaps a guide to checking if your pr... See more Jared, I think one of the reasons people have become unhappy with Proz (apart from the actual security problem), is that lack of public announcement or notification. Anyone who hasn't seen this thread or been on Linkedin may be completely unaware, and I think they have the right to be informed.
I think Proz needs to send out a message, or at least put a prominent notice on the home page about this incident, and warn translators to be vigilant, perhaps a guide to checking if your profile has appeared on other sites, and ways to get it taken down if it has been used unauthorised. This would help alleviate some concerns and show that some action has been taken.
I too would like to know what happened. It seems strange that (from what I have seen), the majority, if not all, of the profiles on that site were only of paying Proz members, does that not seem just a little strange and perhaps suggest that it was more than just "scraping"? Otherwise more profiles of non-paying users from the site should have been included too.
I am not a paid up member, and could not find myself on there, and although I have wavered several times about getting a subscription, if being a paid up member can expose you to this kind of security issue I think I'm better off without.
Jared, although you may not be able to give us specifics of how you are beefing up the Proz security, surely you can explain to us how you were instrumental in getting the site taken down? A quick explanation of the steps that were taken to achieve that might go some way towards alleviating the concerns of members ▲ Collapse
| | | | DLyons 
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Local time: 08:06
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NKopelman wrote:
I think Proz needs to send out a message, or at least put a prominent notice on the home page about this incident, and warn translators to be vigilant, perhaps a guide to checking if your profile has appeared on other sites, and ways to get it taken down if it has been used unauthorised.
There has been a front-page notice under "ProZ News" for days now.
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Local time: 09:06
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SITE LOCALIZER | Not enough, i'm afraid | Nov 23, 2014 |
DLyons wrote:
There has been a front-page notice under "ProZ News" for days now.
I'm afraid that's no use to me, nor I suspect, to many other users of ProZ.com; I only ever visit the site via a KudoZ page, and all I've been seeing on that for days now is a lurid advert for improving my sexual performance — which to be frank, I'd rather not see!
Perhaps we could persuade ProZ.com to prioritize protecting its members over advertising revenue; I'd like to see a prominent scam warning, maybe a scrolling banner or some other eye-catching animation, at the top of EVERY page (except perhaps individual profile pages), so no matter what route you take to access the site, you can't avoid being aware of it.
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I did not see these news neither nor do I know where to find them...
| | | | DLyons
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| | How the site was taken down | Nov 23, 2014 |
NKopelman wrote:
Jared, although you may not be able to give us specifics of how you are beefing up the Proz security, surely you can explain to us how you were instrumental in getting the site taken down? A quick explanation of the steps that were taken to achieve that might go some way towards alleviating the concerns of members
I explained on page one of this forum how to report the incident to the site's web hosting company. I and several others did that. So the site was taken down. I have followed the same procedure several times in the past when rogue site owners had 'scraped' some of my articles. The web hosting companies usually react very quickly, even if only one person reports an infringement. Proz was not "instrumental" in this.
The only way to prevent anyone from 'scraping' your Internet content is not to publish anything on the Internet.
| | | | | Automatically populated pages | Nov 23, 2014 |
One thing I wanted to point out about that site is that not everyone's page was actually stolen. Anyone who entered the url with their name after it would come to a "profile" using that name. Now, a lot of pages were scraped, and if you saw your picture or language combinations, etc, yours was too, but when I ran the url followed by ahdkshdjdksosmdldk, I was taken to a profile that would "have more information added soon". There is a way to program a site so that what ever you put as a page will... See more One thing I wanted to point out about that site is that not everyone's page was actually stolen. Anyone who entered the url with their name after it would come to a "profile" using that name. Now, a lot of pages were scraped, and if you saw your picture or language combinations, etc, yours was too, but when I ran the url followed by ahdkshdjdksosmdldk, I was taken to a profile that would "have more information added soon". There is a way to program a site so that what ever you put as a page will be automatically populated around that word. ▲ Collapse
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