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Französisch: épingle à béquille

Englisch translation: hammer head pin / hammer-shaped pin







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Französisch Begriff oder Satz:épingle à béquille
Englisch Übersetzung:hammer head pin / hammer-shaped pin
Eingetragen von:Yolanda Broad
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Übersetzungen Französisch > Englisch [PRO]
Art/Literary - Archäologie / archaeology
Französisch Begriff oder Satz: épingle à béquille
D'autres cultures, méditerranéennes celles-là et de moidre expansion, en véhiculant des traits culturels considérés comme de souche steppique (ainsi les haches de bataille ou les épingles à béquille) présenteraient également de claires influences issues de ces confins euro-asiatiques.
MSH
Vereinigtes Königreich
hammer head pin / hammer-shaped pin
Erklärung:
The good news is that I think I've found your pin!

[PDF]Civilisations de l'Europe au Néolithique et à l'Age du bronze ...
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
... Les épingles à tête en marteau (ou en béquille), connues dans la culture ... crosse
», « objet » triangulaire, poignard, arc et flèches, hache, etc.) qui n ...
www.college-de-france.fr/media/civ_eur/ UPL51953_GuilaineR01-02.pdf

The bad news is that this is a descriptive term, so I'm not sure you're going to find an exact match. I'm suggesting "hammer head," based on the French description, above. Here are some Neolithic period pin descriptions which would suggest similar shapes–and some descriptions of bone pins with similar shapes:

Poulnabrone Dolmen
... The remains of up to 22 individuals from the Neolithic were found. ... 2 stone beads,
a decorated bone pendant, a fragment of a mushroom-headed bone pin, 2 quartz ...
www.nd.edu/~ikuijt/Ireland/Sites/ cquinn/poulnabronedetail.htm

One specific group identified is the conical headed bone pin, an element of the Linkardstown burial tradition (Raftery 1974; Manning 1985). This one has 4 drawings of the pins, which have two heads.
http://www.ucd.ie/~trowel/murray.htm

This one, made of reindeer bone, also illustrated, shows what could be described as a crutch "head," does not have a hammer head shape at all!

Here's the description - see the URL for the illustration:

The complete perforated bone pin (Figure 5 above), made on a split roe deer metatarsal, is 148 mm long and is 15 mm wide at the flattened proximal end, tapering distally to a finely worked point with a cylindrical cross section. The proximal end incorporates a smooth unmodified portion of the articular surface of the metatarsal. The drilled perforation is 2 mm in diameter and is positioned 10 mm from the proximal end. The pin appears to have been crafted using stone tools, and it is comparable with similar artefacts found in Bronze Age burial mounds in Derbyshire and in East Yorkshire. http://www.shef.ac.uk/~capra/1/carsing.html.

The photo at this URL shows a smallish two-headed bone pin beside the skeletal remains: http://www.cilnews.unige.it/archeo/f027.htm

This pin, found in Scotland, probably looks like the reindeer one:

Other archeological finds were, a bone pin with eye http://www.highlanderweb.co.uk/haunted/haunt11.htm
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ZUSAMMENFASSUNG ALLER ÜBERSETZUNGEN (ENGLISCH)
3 +2hammer head pin / hammer-shaped pin
Yolanda Broad
5 -1crutch pinsKathleen Casiglia
3 +1toggle pin
Tony M
2safety pin?zaphod
1crutch pinAndreina Baiano


  

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11 Min.   Antwortsicherheit: Answerer confidence 5/5 Zustimmung (Netto): -1
crutch pins

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Babel fish and google both give me about the same answer. The only difference is that babel fish translates it as pins with crutch. However, in this case, I think that crutch pins would most defintely work better here.


    Quelle: http://translate.google.com/translate_t
    Quelle: http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/tr
Kathleen Casiglia
Vereinigte Staaten

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Widerspruch Christopher Crockett: Sorry, Kathleen, but I don't think that parts of a clock mechanism will work in the context of a prehistoric culture, even if both Babelfish & Google say so.
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crutch pin

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Could this be the one? I am not sure...

Andreina Baiano
Italien
Muttersprache: Italienisch
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1 Stunde   Antwortsicherheit: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 Zustimmung (Netto): +1
toggle pin

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...or brooch / clasp

I think this might be the one you're looking for.

The only 'crutch pin' I found on Google that appeared to be relevant was in fact a red herring

Best of luck!


    Quelle: http://www.museum.upenn.edu/Canaan/Glossary.html
Tony M
Frankreich
Muttersprache: Englisch
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Zustimmung Bourth: Looks good. Unlike the rolling crutch pin in wrestling which sounds painful!
2 Stunden
  -> Thanks, Alex! Can't say I fancy a rolling pin the crutch... :-))
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safety pin?

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I know it's modern, but based on an ancient concept. Maybe the more modern words would be pertinent?

zaphod
Frankreich
Muttersprache: Englisch, Französisch
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22 Stunden   Antwortsicherheit: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 Zustimmung (Netto): +2
hammer head pin / hammer-shaped pin

Erklärung:
The good news is that I think I've found your pin!

[PDF]Civilisations de l'Europe au Néolithique et à l'Age du bronze ...
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
... Les épingles à tête en marteau (ou en béquille), connues dans la culture ... crosse
», « objet » triangulaire, poignard, arc et flèches, hache, etc.) qui n ...
www.college-de-france.fr/media/civ_eur/ UPL51953_GuilaineR01-02.pdf

The bad news is that this is a descriptive term, so I'm not sure you're going to find an exact match. I'm suggesting "hammer head," based on the French description, above. Here are some Neolithic period pin descriptions which would suggest similar shapes–and some descriptions of bone pins with similar shapes:

Poulnabrone Dolmen
... The remains of up to 22 individuals from the Neolithic were found. ... 2 stone beads,
a decorated bone pendant, a fragment of a mushroom-headed bone pin, 2 quartz ...
www.nd.edu/~ikuijt/Ireland/Sites/ cquinn/poulnabronedetail.htm

One specific group identified is the conical headed bone pin, an element of the Linkardstown burial tradition (Raftery 1974; Manning 1985). This one has 4 drawings of the pins, which have two heads.
http://www.ucd.ie/~trowel/murray.htm

This one, made of reindeer bone, also illustrated, shows what could be described as a crutch "head," does not have a hammer head shape at all!

Here's the description - see the URL for the illustration:

The complete perforated bone pin (Figure 5 above), made on a split roe deer metatarsal, is 148 mm long and is 15 mm wide at the flattened proximal end, tapering distally to a finely worked point with a cylindrical cross section. The proximal end incorporates a smooth unmodified portion of the articular surface of the metatarsal. The drilled perforation is 2 mm in diameter and is positioned 10 mm from the proximal end. The pin appears to have been crafted using stone tools, and it is comparable with similar artefacts found in Bronze Age burial mounds in Derbyshire and in East Yorkshire. http://www.shef.ac.uk/~capra/1/carsing.html.

The photo at this URL shows a smallish two-headed bone pin beside the skeletal remains: http://www.cilnews.unige.it/archeo/f027.htm

This pin, found in Scotland, probably looks like the reindeer one:

Other archeological finds were, a bone pin with eye http://www.highlanderweb.co.uk/haunted/haunt11.htm


    Quelle: http://www.google.com/search?q=neolithic+%22bone+pin%22&hl=e...
Yolanda Broad
Vereinigte Staaten
Muttersprache: Englisch
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Zustimmung xxxphil90: Je suis d'Accord ce terme est associer a un objet datant de l'époque mentioné par madamme Broad et celui-ci semble etre le plus probant
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Zustimmung Tony M: Nice research, Yolanda! I NEARLY got there...!
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