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Französisch: attaque du métal

Englisch translation: metal being attacked







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Französisch Begriff oder Satz:attaque du métal
Englisch Übersetzung:metal being attacked
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Übersetzungen Französisch > Englisch [PRO]
Tech/Engineering - Chemie, -technik / Chemistry
Französisch Begriff oder Satz: attaque du métal
Could you help me here, please?
It's more to know whether the metal is "attacked" or "corroded". I do not think that "etching" is relevant here.
Any help gratefully appreciated!
TB

Ajoutez 10 ml d'acide nitrique R et achevez l'attaque du métal au bain-marie bouillant jusqu'à disparition totale des vapeurs nitreuses.

Add 10 ml of nitric acid R and achieve the corrosion of the metal in a boiling water bath until the nitrous vapours have completely disappeared
TopBearLondon
metal being attacked
Erklärung:
I think you might have to re-word it slightly to make it sound more natural in EN.

My reason for thinking this is purely because we would naturally say "nitric acid attacks metal"

I always think of 'corrosion' as being somehow more long-term...

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Note added at 17 mins (2007-09-06 10:19:57 GMT)
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'achever' here means 'complete', in the sense of 'allow to take place until it has finished' — it's important to note that a

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Note added at 18 mins (2007-09-06 10:21:29 GMT)
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... it's important to note that 'achever' does NOT mean 'to stop' per se, but rather, 'to complete / finish / bring to a close' etc.

(apologies for disjointed note, my keyboard is playing up!)
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Tony M
Frankreich
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Thanks to all.
This is indeed a lab experiment, so I have chosen this answer.
Your help is most gratefully appreciated!
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4 +4picklingBourth
2 +1metal being attacked
Tony M
3metal corrosion
lamprell


  

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7 Min.   Antwortsicherheit: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
metal corrosion

Erklärung:
In my humble opinion I would go for "corrosion". I think the metal is being put in the hot water bath to stop the corrosion. "Achever" means to stop/end, not acheive. Hope this helps.

lamprell
Frankreich
Spezialgebiet
Muttersprache: Englisch

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Zustimmung Valentina751: agree
6 Min.
  -> thanks

Widerspruch Tony M: Although I don't entirely support 'corrosion', my real disagreement here is with your interpretation of 'achever', which certainly does not mean 'terminate' here / Right, THAT I agree with! Not ideal...
8 Min.
  -> I understand what you are saying, I think what I was trying to say is that (for me) achieve isn't the right word here.
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14 Min.   Antwortsicherheit: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5 Zustimmung (Netto): +1
metal being attacked

Erklärung:
I think you might have to re-word it slightly to make it sound more natural in EN.

My reason for thinking this is purely because we would naturally say "nitric acid attacks metal"

I always think of 'corrosion' as being somehow more long-term...

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Note added at 17 mins (2007-09-06 10:19:57 GMT)
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'achever' here means 'complete', in the sense of 'allow to take place until it has finished' — it's important to note that a

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Note added at 18 mins (2007-09-06 10:21:29 GMT)
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... it's important to note that 'achever' does NOT mean 'to stop' per se, but rather, 'to complete / finish / bring to a close' etc.

(apologies for disjointed note, my keyboard is playing up!)


Tony M
Frankreich
Muttersprache: Englisch
PRO-Punkte in Kategorie: 28
Hinweis von Fragesteller an den Antwortenden
Thanks to all.
This is indeed a lab experiment, so I have chosen this answer.
Your help is most gratefully appreciated!

Kommentare zu dieser Antwort (und Antworten vom Beantworter der Frage)
Zustimmung Karen Tkaczyk: Agree,and yes,the sentence needs edited. leave in the water bath until the reation is finished and there are no more...
2 Stunden
  -> Thanks, Karen!
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3 Stunden   Antwortsicherheit: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 Zustimmung (Netto): +4
pickling

Erklärung:
Cleaning of metals in acid solutions is known as pickling.

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Note added at 3 hrs (2007-09-06 14:00:58 GMT)
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PICKLING — This effect is produced when metals are immersed in acid solutions which attack them. The process of pickling refers to the removal of heat scale, discoloration and rust from steel by acids, mainly (10% plus or minus a few percent) at temperatures anywhere from 120°F to 180° F./49°C to 83°C. Muriatic acid is used extensively on lesser scaled steels and rusted parts. This acid is used at room temperature at about 20% to 40%. Heat is not used with this acid because of the fuming nature of this acid especially at elevated temperatures. Inhibitors are often recommended to prevent attack on the base metal and to reduce consumption of the acid. Care must be used in adding inhibitors as too much can slow down considerably the descaling or derusting operation
http://www.corrosion-doctors.org/Stan-Corner/Stan-Glossary.h...

Prior to galvanizing, the metal surface must be in a state of moderate cleanliness. This is generally accomplished by light acid pickling or blasting. ...
www.wmrc.uiuc.edu/main_sections/info_services/library_docs/...

Acid pickle : A method to remove oxides and other contaminants from metal surfaces. Ageing : A change in the metallurgical structure of an alloy occurring ...
www.zincdiecasting.umicore.com/TechnicalInfo/Glossary/gloss...


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Just checking: nitric is indeed used for pickling.
In pickling metal, such as iron, steel, special alloys, or the like, aqueous blends containing hydrofluoric acid and nitric acid are used as pickling ...
www.freepatentsonline.com/4144092.html

The use of acid solutions in pickling scale in the ferrous metal ... Acidic solutions, such as heated aqueous sulfuric acid or nitric acid, are also used. ...
www.patentstorm.us/patents/5669978-description.html

Nitric acid technical grade- BASF Group
Nitric acid technical grade is colorless up to a content of 53 % ... Metal processing industry: For pickling and descaling steels and other metals. ...
www.inorganics.basf.com/.../Anorganische_Basen_(Laugen)/Produktinformationen/Salpetersaeure_technisch_rein



Bourth
Frankreich
Muttersprache: Englisch
PRO-Punkte in Kategorie: 55

Kommentare zu dieser Antwort (und Antworten vom Beantworter der Frage)
Zustimmung Tony M: Yes indeed, though the context doesn't make it clear if this is a cleaning situation or not; the small qty of nitric involved makes me think this is more likely a lab. experiment.
2 Stunden

Zustimmung Drmanu49
2 Stunden

Zustimmung svetlanac
6 Stunden

Zustimmung xvsy: Yes, but only if we're talking of cleaning (which looks like it); otherwise, I would go for Tony M's.
7 Stunden
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