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Französisch Begriff oder Satz:	"epouse"
Englisch Übersetzung:	"née"
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4:02pm Apr 12, 2004

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Französisch Begriff oder Satz: "epouse"

Can anyone give an official equivalent in English for "epouse" in French administrative documents, when phrased for e.g. Marie Dupont epouse Durand?
Thanks for any suggestions.

Rachel Los

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Rachel Los (asker): 4:36pm Apr 13, 2004: epouse - Thanks everyone, I'll definitely go for "M. Durand nee Dupont".
Patrick McKeown: 8:31pm Apr 13, 2004: Thanks very much, Tsvetok! -

spouse

Erklärung:
I'm not squatting, folks, I just wanted to point out that in the UK at least we often see it the other way round, Marie Durand nee Dupont, using the French word (with appropriate accent)to show the after and before.

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Note added at 1 hr 18 mins (2004-04-12 17:21:04 GMT)
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I should make it clear that my suggestion for this particular post is, as Tom Bishop words it, \"née with the surnames reversed\"; spouse, as Carol Williams points out, is the straighforward translation, but not the appropriate response to Tsvetok\'s question. (Whew!)

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Patrick McKeown
Italien

Hinweis von Fragesteller an den Antwortenden

Thanks very much. This is the answer I was looking for.
4 KudoZ-Punkte wurden für diese Antwort vergeben

ZUSAMMENFASSUNG ALLER ÜBERSETZUNGEN (ENGLISCH)

4 +8

spouse

Patrick McKeown

5 +5

spouse

Hugo

5 +3

married name

Tom Bishop

4 +1

spouse ...

1045

5 -1

married

zaphod

marie Durand nee Dupont

xxxsarahl

just some more info....

Charlie Bavington

2 +1

lawful wife

Jonathan MacKerron

spouse

Dolores Vázquez

Antworten

2 Min. Antwortsicherheit:

Zustimmung (Netto): +5

épouse spouse

Erklärung:
wife less legalese though

Hugo
Vereinigte Staaten
Muttersprache: Spanisch, Französisch
PRO-Punkte in Kategorie: 8

4 Min. Antwortsicherheit:

epouse spouse

Erklärung:
See ref.

Quelle: http://europa.eu.int/eurodicautom

Dolores Vázquez
Spanien
Muttersprache: Galegisch, Spanisch
PRO-Punkte in Kategorie: 16

13 Min. Antwortsicherheit:

Zustimmung (Netto): +3

épouse married name

Erklärung:
.

Tom Bishop
Vereinigtes Königreich
Muttersprache: Englisch
PRO-Punkte in Kategorie: 32

12 Min. Antwortsicherheit:

Zustimmung (Netto): +8

epouse spouse

Erklärung:
I'm not squatting, folks, I just wanted to point out that in the UK at least we often see it the other way round, Marie Durand nee Dupont, using the French word (with appropriate accent)to show the after and before.

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Note added at 1 hr 18 mins (2004-04-12 17:21:04 GMT)
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I should make it clear that my suggestion for this particular post is, as Tom Bishop words it, \"née with the surnames reversed\"; spouse, as Carol Williams points out, is the straighforward translation, but not the appropriate response to Tsvetok\'s question. (Whew!)

Patrick McKeown
Italien
Muttersprache: Englisch
PRO-Punkte in Kategorie: 4

Hinweis von Fragesteller an den Antwortenden

Thanks very much. This is the answer I was looking for.

Kommentare zu dieser Antwort (und Antworten vom Beantworter der Frage)

Zustimmung

Tom Bishop: née with the surnames reversed

4 Min.

-> thanks Tom; I was about to agree with you, but that would probably look a bit suspicious now!! I think my own version stands for something reported in a newspaper or semi-official document , while your suggestion is definitely right for forms .

Zustimmung

cmwilliams: yes, Marie Durand née Dupont is how it is written in English. Durand is her married name. We don't use 'spouse' in this context.

12 Min.

-> thanks Carol, maybe I should change my entry (spouse), but I don't know how!

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Hervé du Verle

54 Min.

-> thank you, Hervé

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margaret caulfield

1 Stunde

-> thanks, Margaret

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Trudy Peters: with cmwilliams. Patrick, just post a new answer and hide this one.

1 Stunde

-> as you can see, sarahl beat me to the draw! Thanks for the suggestion, though.

Zustimmung

Robert Schlarb: with Trudy, cmwilliams

2 Stunden

-> and with me, too, I hope! Thanks, Robert

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xxxsarahl

8 Stunden

-> thanks, Sarah, I created the original confusion, mea culpa ...

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Charlie Bavington: but see also my posting...

9 Stunden

-> thank you, Charlie

3 Stunden Antwortsicherheit:

Zustimmung (Netto): +1

lawful wife

Erklärung:
as opposed to a commonlaw wife..

Jonathan MacKerron
Deutschland
Muttersprache: Englisch
PRO-Punkte in Kategorie: 12

5 Stunden Antwortsicherheit:

Zustimmung (Netto): -1

married

Erklärung:
if you don't like spouse.

Marie Dupont; married Durand.

zaphod
Frankreich
Muttersprache: Englisch, Französisch
PRO-Punkte in Kategorie: 4

5 Stunden Antwortsicherheit:

Zustimmung (Netto): +1

spouse ...

Erklärung:
What controversy!

Marie Dupont, épouse de Pierre Durand.
Marie Dupont, wife of Pierre Durand.
Marie Dupont, lawful wife of Pierre Durant.
Marie Durant, née Dupont.

Take your pick. I'd go with the last one.

1045
Kanada
Muttersprache: Französisch
PRO-Punkte in Kategorie: 18

2 Stunden Antwortsicherheit:

marie Durand nee Dupont

Erklärung:
I think this is the way we would say it in English, the other way around.

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Note added at 8 hrs 15 mins (2004-04-13 00:17:48 GMT)
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oops! I hadn\'t realized Patrick had already given the answer, sorry about that, Patrick.

xxxsarahl
Vereinigte Staaten
Muttersprache: Französisch
PRO-Punkte in Kategorie: 54

9 Stunden Antwortsicherheit:

just some more info....

Erklärung:
would personally tend to agree with the "née" solution for most contexts, but it rang a bell, so I looked up a personal glossary, and found:

Agnes A épouse B = means Agnès B née A, but preferred solution is Agnès A (Mrs.B)

"Preferred solution"? No idea, but a lot of these mystery entries are culled from FLEFO. I have an inkling this may have been for a list of names for a conference or something, so may not be entirely relevant, but I thought I'd share it with you!

(also kind of supports Dusty's comment to JK's suggestion)

Charlie Bavington
Vereinigtes Königreich
Arbeitsgebiet
Muttersprache: Englisch
PRO-Punkte in Kategorie: 97

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Französisch: "epouse"

Englisch translation: "née"