Französisch: carrières en cours de validité vs. carrières en vigueur confirmésEnglisch translation: valid vs. valid and confirmed right 
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| Glossareintrag (aus Frage unten abgeleitet) | | Französisch Begriff oder Satz: | droits en cours de validité vs. droits en vigueur confirmés | | Englisch Übersetzung: | valid vs. valid and confirmed right | | Eingetragen von: | Bianca AH |
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Law/Patents - Bergbau und Mineralien/Edelsteine / mining | | Französisch Begriff oder Satz: carrières en cours de validité vs. carrières en vigueur confirmés | What is the difference between the two? Although there is no entry under mining, Termium gives very similar (if not identical) definitions for both "en cours de validité" and "en vigueur confirmé".
Operative?
Open?
Both?
Which is which? And don't "operative" and "open" imply the same meaning?
From:
"..portant etablissement et publication de la liste des droits miniers et des carrieres en cours de validite, expires ou annules depuis 1990;
...portant etablissement et publication de la liste des droits miniers et des carrieres en vigueur confirmés, renoncés ou reclamés"
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| Bianca AHKudoZ-AktivitätFragen: 225 (alle geschlossen) Antworten: 67
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| Notiz(en) an den/des Fragesteller(s)xxxdf49f: 12:33am Mar 2, 2006: Bianca: ce sont les droits qui sont en cours de validité, expirés, annulés, confirmés, renoncés, réclamés - et non pas les carrières (les adjectifs sont d'ailleurs au masculin) -
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| | operating (under old license) vs operating under confirmed license | Erklärung:
The regulations on quarrying have become increasingly complicated as a result of environmental concerns. Quarries which have been licensed in the past and are operating (en cours de validité) MAY have their licenses revoked (too much heavy traffic on local roads, inadequate environmental measures, lobbying by local environmental groups, etc.). Those which continue to pass all the tests would be "carrières en vigueur confirmés".
Reading between the lines, that is.
There MAY also be a further complication in that, going from memory, operators may acquire licenses to quarry in a given area, but if they do not actually start quarrying within a certain time (well within the duration of the entire licensed period), the authorization may be reviewed. This MAY explain a difference between "en validité" and "en vigueur".
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Note added at 48 mins (2006-03-01 17:08:34 GMT)
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Note too that after a brief look at some documents on the ouèbbhe, it appears that "en vigueur" and "en validité" seem to apply to "droits" rather than to "carrières" (even if in the long run it amounts to the same thing - though of course there might be quarries "en vigueur" i.e. operating (if the expression can indeed be given this meaning), that do not have a "droit en cours de validité" or "en vigueur".
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Note added at 54 mins (2006-03-01 17:14:35 GMT)
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Of course the adjectives "expirés", "annulés", "confirmés", "renoncés", and "reclamés" also agree with "droits miniers et (droits) de carrières".
Bref, my header should not include the words "operating", and should read "valid vs valid and confirmed".
Of course this raises the semantic question of whether a "droit" which is NOT "en cours de validité" in fact constitutes a "droit"! But that's a battle for the lawyers. It may be that a "droit" is granted for a certain time but expires if an annual fee is not paid, and that if it has lapsed, so is not "en cours de validité", it may be "re-validated" by paying the arrears on the fees. |
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| operating (under old license) vs operating under confirmed license
Erklärung:
The regulations on quarrying have become increasingly complicated as a result of environmental concerns. Quarries which have been licensed in the past and are operating (en cours de validité) MAY have their licenses revoked (too much heavy traffic on local roads, inadequate environmental measures, lobbying by local environmental groups, etc.). Those which continue to pass all the tests would be "carrières en vigueur confirmés".
Reading between the lines, that is.
There MAY also be a further complication in that, going from memory, operators may acquire licenses to quarry in a given area, but if they do not actually start quarrying within a certain time (well within the duration of the entire licensed period), the authorization may be reviewed. This MAY explain a difference between "en validité" and "en vigueur".
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Note added at 48 mins (2006-03-01 17:08:34 GMT)
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Note too that after a brief look at some documents on the ouèbbhe, it appears that "en vigueur" and "en validité" seem to apply to "droits" rather than to "carrières" (even if in the long run it amounts to the same thing - though of course there might be quarries "en vigueur" i.e. operating (if the expression can indeed be given this meaning), that do not have a "droit en cours de validité" or "en vigueur".
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Note added at 54 mins (2006-03-01 17:14:35 GMT)
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Of course the adjectives "expirés", "annulés", "confirmés", "renoncés", and "reclamés" also agree with "droits miniers et (droits) de carrières".
Bref, my header should not include the words "operating", and should read "valid vs valid and confirmed".
Of course this raises the semantic question of whether a "droit" which is NOT "en cours de validité" in fact constitutes a "droit"! But that's a battle for the lawyers. It may be that a "droit" is granted for a certain time but expires if an annual fee is not paid, and that if it has lapsed, so is not "en cours de validité", it may be "re-validated" by paying the arrears on the fees.
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Fragesteller: Hi Bourth. I'd like to select an answer for this question. What is then your final answer on this question: "valid vs valid and confirmed" OR "valid (under old licence) vs. valid under confirmed licence"?
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