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Französisch Begriff oder Satz:	droits miniers...renoncés ou réclamés
Englisch Übersetzung:	confirmed valid or claimed mining rights
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9:01am Mar 5, 2006

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Französisch Begriff oder Satz: droits miniers...renoncés ou réclamés

Hi all,

Just want to ensure that I'm using the correct lingo here. From:

"Vu l'Arrete Ministeriel n. 123 du 1 janvier 2000 portant publication des listes des droits miniers et des carrieres en vigueur confirmés, renoncés ou réclamés;"

I have: "...concerning the publication of the lists of mineral rights and valid and confirmed open-pit mines, relinquished* or reclaimed*;"

Are these the correct terms?

TIA

Bianca AH

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Bianca AH: 5:06pm Mar 5, 2006: Further information - This is for the mining of diamantes

which lingo?

Erklärung:
Irrespective of how you translate "renoncés ou réclamés", I'd have thought you were dealing with "mining and quarrying rights". To the best of my knowledge, a "carrière" is a place where sand or gravel is extracted (confirmed by my dictionary). Since the rock etc. extracted from a quarry is a mineral, I don't think you can talk about "mineral rights". "Mining" more properly refers to (precious) metals, gemstones, coal, etc. and in itself covers open-cast mines.

Between them, "mining and quarrying" (and don't forget, you can have underground quarries too) cover the range of what your text is addressing, seems to me.

Again, in "droits miniers et des carrieres en vigueur confirmés, renoncés ou réclamés", "droits" is qualified by both "miniers" AND "des carrières" (French doesn't have an adjective for "pertaining to quarries", otherwise it would read something like "droits miniers et carrièrifères/carrièresques"), as well as by the string of adjectives at the end.

confirmed valid, abandoned/relinquished, or (re)claimed mining and quarrying rights

Not sure about "(re)claimed" since "réclamer" can simply mean "claim" (in the same way as "dédoubler" or "redoubler" simply means "double"). I tend to think here it would mean "claimed".

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Note added at 7 hrs (2006-03-05 16:57:16 GMT)
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Or "requested".

Ausgewählte Antwort von:

Bourth
Frankreich

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Cheers, Bourth. Your answer was the most helpful.
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ZUSAMMENFASSUNG ALLER ÜBERSETZUNGEN (ENGLISCH)

3 +3

confirmed, waived or claimed

Sylvia Smith

3 +2

which lingo?

Bourth

relinquished or claimed

xxxsarahl

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23 Min. Antwortsicherheit:

relinquished or claimed

Erklärung:
imo

xxxsarahl
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Hinweise an den Beantworter der Frage

Fragesteller: Thanks Sarah!

22 Min. Antwortsicherheit:

Zustimmung (Netto): +3

confirmed, waived or claimed

Erklärung:
since carrière is feminine, I believe confirmés applies to droits (masc.), and Robert & Collins gives claim for réclamer.

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Note added at 23 mins (2006-03-05 09:25:25 GMT)
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and en vigueur would be in effect, the rights in effect

Sylvia Smith
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Fragesteller: Hi Sylvia, "valid and confirmed" for "en vigueur confirmés" is what I have as an answer to a previous question (http://www.proz.com/kudoz/1269565) which is what I'm going with for now.... Although maybe you're right...?

Fragesteller: Thanks Sylvia!

7 Stunden Antwortsicherheit:

Zustimmung (Netto): +2

which lingo?

Erklärung:
Irrespective of how you translate "renoncés ou réclamés", I'd have thought you were dealing with "mining and quarrying rights". To the best of my knowledge, a "carrière" is a place where sand or gravel is extracted (confirmed by my dictionary). Since the rock etc. extracted from a quarry is a mineral, I don't think you can talk about "mineral rights". "Mining" more properly refers to (precious) metals, gemstones, coal, etc. and in itself covers open-cast mines.

Between them, "mining and quarrying" (and don't forget, you can have underground quarries too) cover the range of what your text is addressing, seems to me.

Again, in "droits miniers et des carrieres en vigueur confirmés, renoncés ou réclamés", "droits" is qualified by both "miniers" AND "des carrières" (French doesn't have an adjective for "pertaining to quarries", otherwise it would read something like "droits miniers et carrièrifères/carrièresques"), as well as by the string of adjectives at the end.

confirmed valid, abandoned/relinquished, or (re)claimed mining and quarrying rights

Not sure about "(re)claimed" since "réclamer" can simply mean "claim" (in the same way as "dédoubler" or "redoubler" simply means "double"). I tend to think here it would mean "claimed".

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Note added at 7 hrs (2006-03-05 16:57:16 GMT)
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Or "requested".

Bourth
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Cheers, Bourth. Your answer was the most helpful.

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Französisch: droits miniers...renoncés ou réclamés

Englisch translation: confirmed valid or claimed mining rights