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Französisch: annexé à notre imaginaire

Englisch translation: Who gave us a/the vision



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Französisch Begriff oder Satz:annexé à notre imaginaire
Englisch Übersetzung:Who gave us a/the vision
Eingetragen von:Anna Maria Augustin
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Übersetzungen Französisch > Englisch [PRO]
Religion / Abbe Pierre
Französisch Begriff oder Satz: annexé à notre imaginaire
Oui, c’était tout ça, l’abbé Pierre, « notre » abbé Pierre que nous avions annexé à notre imaginaire, à cette envie du bien qui parfois nous caresse de son aile céleste.
David West
Vereinigtes Königreich
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Martin Cassell: 12:03pm Apr 14, 2007: Dave, I'm sure this was asked very recently
Jim Tucker: 12:03pm Apr 14, 2007: Many aspects of this passage have been discussed in recent days. Check around Thurs-Fri.
Martin Cassell: 12:05pm Apr 14, 2007: http://www.proz.com/kudoz/1859116
David West: 12:06pm Apr 14, 2007: Ah, ah somebody else on the Abbe Pierre trail!
Rowan Morrell: 12:12pm Apr 14, 2007: I would go with the winning answer from that other question - "captured/fired our imagination".
Najib Aloui: 1:16pm Apr 14, 2007: Perhaps a chance for a better answer!
Richard Benham: 2:32pm Apr 14, 2007: I think that answer sucks!
Martin Cassell: 2:42pm Apr 14, 2007: I agree with Najib and Richard, the earlier answer could certainly be improved upon.
Najib Aloui: 3:42pm Apr 14, 2007: Some wording in English to say that the real person has been "grabbed" by collective representations (belonging to the realm of imagination) and given the status of a "mythical figure"....
Najib Aloui: 7:41pm Apr 14, 2007: something like "...is now given place among our myths..." (?)
David West: 10:02am Apr 15, 2007: Whom we all associated in our minds with that desire for good...?
David West: 10:34am Apr 16, 2007: Hows about: Whom, in our minds, was synonymous with that desire for good that sometimes touches us with its heavenly wings...?
Anna Maria Augustin: 10:41am Apr 16, 2007: Touches us ever so briefly. We're not talking about mythical angels but someone who spent his life radically fighting on behalf of the socially excluded, the poor, the homeless.
David West: 10:51am Apr 16, 2007: Well, it's not Abbe Pierre who touches us, but the desire for good. When it does we 'think' of him.
Anna Maria Augustin: 6:16pm Apr 21, 2007: Thank you Dave!

Who gave us a/the vision
Erklärung:
At first thought - captured, as attached to our imagination/realm of fantasy might be too literal.

So my suggestion is far different from the literal so far proposed.

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Note added at 1 day1 hr (2007-04-15 13:07:49 GMT)
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and whom, in our minds, we all associated with a/that/the desire to do good/desire for goodwill
Ausgewählte Antwort von:

Anna Maria Augustin
Frankreich
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Thx Anna Maria and all
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ZUSAMMENFASSUNG ALLER ÜBERSETZUNGEN (ENGLISCH)
4taken to our hearts
Sheila Wilson
3Abbé Pierre (whose figure) our imaginative life had grabbedNajib Aloui
3who has become part of our collective unconscious
Alison Jeffries-Thierry
2Who gave us a/the vision
Anna Maria Augustin


  

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taken to our hearts

Erklärung:
I know imagination comes from the brain rather than the heart but I think this describes what we all (including atheists) thought of Abbé Pierre. Plenty of hits including

http://archive.thenorthernecho.co.uk/2002/6/16/
A hero we have taken to our hearts. Sir Bobby Robson's epic journey has taken him from the County Durham mines to the coal face of Premiership football, ...

article from www.mailonsunday.co.uk site
This wasn't the warm, maternal, Sharon Osbourne we had taken to our hearts.
(Yes, I realise there's a bit of a gulf between her and A.P. but horses for courses and all that)

Sheila Wilson
Frankreich
Muttersprache: Englisch
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who has become part of our collective unconscious

Erklärung:
'Imaginaire' is a hard one to translate to English. I've read books that refer to l'imaginaire; it's often used in the area of psychoanalysis, psychology. So, although my translation is not literal, I think it's close to how a native English speaker would best understand this expression. Also, given the status of l'Abbé Pierre in France, I don't think it's pushing it too far to say he's part of the modern French 'collective unconscious '...

Alison Jeffries-Thierry
Australien
Muttersprache: Englisch
PRO-Punkte in Kategorie: 4
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Who gave us a/the vision

Erklärung:
At first thought - captured, as attached to our imagination/realm of fantasy might be too literal.

So my suggestion is far different from the literal so far proposed.

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Note added at 1 day1 hr (2007-04-15 13:07:49 GMT)
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and whom, in our minds, we all associated with a/that/the desire to do good/desire for goodwill

Anna Maria Augustin
Frankreich
Muttersprache: Englisch, Französisch
PRO-Punkte in Kategorie: 4
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Thx Anna Maria and all
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Abbé Pierre (whose figure) our imaginative life had grabbed

Erklärung:
...This may help ...

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Note added at 1 day19 hrs (2007-04-16 07:15:34 GMT)
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"Abbé Pierre whose figure now lives/dwells in the realm/land of our highest/purest/heavenly dreams, our aspiration for Good"...Perhaps something along...
Sorry, Dave, for not having been able to provide a better proposal.

Najib Aloui
Algerien
Arbeitsgebiet
Muttersprache: Französisch
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