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Französisch: oblation perpétuelle

Englisch translation: perpetual dedication







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Französisch Begriff oder Satz:oblation perpetuelle
Englisch Ăśbersetzung:perpetual dedication
Eingetragen von:Scott de Lesseps
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Übersetzungen Französisch > Englisch [PRO]
Art/Literary - Religion / Religious
Französisch Begriff oder Satz: oblation perpétuelle

Par un acte solennel, Louise fit à Marie l’oblation perpétuelle de sa communauté. (The text refers to a nun, Louise, and Marie refers to the Virgin Mary)
Scott de Lesseps
Vereinigte Staaten
Louise dedicated her community to Mary for all eternity
Erklärung:
Thanks for giving the entire sentence."Oblation" could be translated several ways depending on--gguess what--context.
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Michael Locey
Vereinigte Staaten
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ZUSAMMENFASSUNG ALLER ĂśBERSETZUNGEN (ENGLISCH)
4 +7everlasting/perpetual oblation/offering
Francis MARC
5 +2perpetual vows
LDupont
4By a sacred act, Louise made a perpetual vow to the Virgin to serve Her in Her convent.
Christopher Crockett
4Louise dedicated her community to Mary for all eternityMichael Locey
4 -1perpetual obligation
Jean-Luc Dumont
1In a solemn act Louise took her community's final vows to Mary.
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3 Min.   Antwortsicherheit: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 Zustimmung (Netto): -1
perpetual obligation

Erklärung:
perpetual commitment

looks like a typo = obligation

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Note added at 2003-03-04 21:57:21 (GMT)
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oops correction

oblation = offer or gift

Jean-Luc Dumont
Frankreich
Muttersprache: Französisch
PRO-Punkte in Kategorie: 4

Kommentare zu dieser Antwort (und Antworten vom Beantworter der Frage)
Widerspruch Giuseppina Gatta: Oblation is something other
1 Min.
  -> you are right - mea culpa
Neutraler Kommentar writeaway: oblation is correct and it's the same word in English.
5 Min.
  -> yes - this is what I get for not thinking twice :)
Neutraler Kommentar Peter Coles: ... but I confess I jumped to the same conclusion
1 Stunde
  -> I feel perpetual regrets for my jump. I confess I was tempted to hide my bad answer for fear of perpetual and "disagree"able humiliation, but I leave for the "humbling" lesson and to prepare my redemption :-)
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3 Min.   Antwortsicherheit: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 Zustimmung (Netto): +7
everlasting/perpetual oblation/offering

Erklärung:
Ref. Harrap's
oblation
[CblasjT] nf Rel oblation, offering


Francis MARC
Litauen
Muttersprache: Französisch

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Zustimmung Giuseppina Gatta: This is correct
0 Min.
Zustimmung writeaway
3 Min.
Zustimmung Jean-Luc Dumont
5 Min.
Zustimmung douani
1 Stunde
Zustimmung Peter Coles
1 Stunde
Zustimmung Catherine Johnstone
11 Stunden
Zustimmung Saleh Ayyub
5 Tage
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4 Stunden   Antwortsicherheit: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
Louise dedicated her community to Mary for all eternity

Erklärung:
Thanks for giving the entire sentence."Oblation" could be translated several ways depending on--gguess what--context.

Michael Locey
Vereinigte Staaten
Muttersprache: Englisch
PRO-Punkte in Kategorie: 4
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Neutraler Kommentar Christopher Crockett: "Her community ? Whose, Louise's ? was she the abbess ?
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6 Stunden   Antwortsicherheit: Answerer confidence 5/5 Zustimmung (Netto): +2
perpetual vows

Erklärung:
Father Wilhelm Steckling was born April 23,1947 in Verl, Germany. He made his perpetual vows in 1973. After ordination in 1974 (in Spexard, his home parish) he was sent to Paraguay, where ...
Scolastique à Hünfeld, puis à Mayence, où il fait son oblation perpétuelle le 15 avril 1973, il est ordonné prêtre dans sa paroisse natale de Spexard près de Gütersloh le 20 juillet 1974.


    Quelle: http://www.omigen.org/steckling/id23.htm
LDupont
Kanada
Muttersprache: Französisch

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Zustimmung sktrans
1 Stunde
  -> Merci
Neutraler Kommentar Christopher Crockett: Even though I don't find this usage in the TrĂ©sor, the context suggests that "vow" trumps "offering" here. But, what do you do about "sa communautĂ©?"
10 Stunden
Zustimmung S. Imas
1 Tag2 Stunden
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By a sacred act, Louise made a perpetual vow to the Virgin to serve Her in Her convent.

Erklärung:
This is twisting and expanding the text somewhat, I know, but I can't figure any other way to see the antecedent of "sa" except as Mary.

*Louise* was not in a position to "make a perpetual gift" of *her* community to Mary. Even if she was abbess (a bit more context would help, however).

The "communauté" *must* be the convent, which is dedicated to Mary.

And, I like Louise (Dupont)'s "vow" in this context, rather than gift.

An "oblation" can be any sort of offering (religious, in this case), but "l’oblation perpétuelle" is going to refer to Louise (the nun)'s vow.

Since she's apparently a modern woman, rather than a medieval one, she's probably not an "oblate," i.e., "a child dedicated by his or her parents to a monastic life and placed in a monastery to be trained."

Christopher Crockett
Vereinigte Staaten
Spezialgebiet
Muttersprache: Englisch
PRO-Punkte in Kategorie: 8
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In a solemn act Louise took her community's final vows to Mary.

Erklärung:
I have always heard to "final vows" since there are usually more than one - poverty, chastity and obedience - in this case I believe the "sa" refers to the vows professed (owned by)by the community of sisters therefore "its vows". I might even change "solemn act" to "solemn ceremony"

reliable
Vereinigte Staaten
Muttersprache: Englisch
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