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Französisch Begriff oder Satz:	Drole de vibrion libre
Englisch Übersetzung:	'real pain in the ass'
Eingetragen von:	Vladimir Dubisskiy

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Französisch Begriff oder Satz: Drole de vibrion libre

This is what a soviet general thinks about a man who caused him a lot of trouble by bringing in some western journalists.

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LM (asker): 9:21am Mar 27, 2002: Thanks - Thank you all for your suggestions. "Pain in the ass" is what I like the best, however, as Jacek knows, now I have to put it in Polish ("cholerna zaraza" or something like that). Yolanda's point is very interesting but Steven is right: it wasn't translated from Russian. As a matter of fact the general doesn't say anything.This is what he might think, sitting red-faced, his uniform suddenly too tight, watching a film about soviet crimes in Afghanistan shown in a GRU military school by the author and his staff mistaken for "French comarades". Siergiey, the "pain in the ass", was a russian journalist who got them invited to that school. So it's hard to guess why the French writter (who doesn't speak Russian)used this very expression which doesn't seem to be common in French.
LM

'pain in the ass' might work

Erklärung:
This is funny.
The idea is pretty understandable and I would render it generally 'pain in the ass'(that person was for the general).
'As energetic and active as (cholera, but not necessariyl) vibrio'.

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ie that guy was a \"real pain in the ass\" for the general.

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I believe I know what that general might say in Russian besides mentioning \'a vibrio(n)\'. It could be \'as active as spermatozoon\' or alike (though \'cholera vibrio(n)\' was quite \'usable\' as well).

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4 +3

'pain in the ass' might work

Vladimir Dubisskiy

5 +2

one hell of a busybody

Theresa Pisani Moniez

4 +2

a wild fidget

Oddie

1 +5

Not exactly an answer to your query, but...

Yolanda Broad

4 +1

loose cannon

Steven Geller

3 +2

what a pest! (funny kind of free-roaming bacteria)

SwissTell

4 -1

funny, loose fidget

Lise Boismenu

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funny, loose fidget

Erklärung:
fidget
inf
à vi
[be restless] avoir la bougeotte, gigoter
stop fidgeting! arrête de gigoter!
to fidget with sthg jouer avec qqch, tripoter qqch
à n
1. [restless person]: she's a little fidget elle ne tient pas en place, elle gigote tout le temps
what a fidget you are today! tu ne tiens pas en place OR tu as la bougeotte aujourd'hui!
don't be such a fidget! arrête de gigoter!
2. phr: to have OR to get the fidgets [be restless, nervous] ne pas tenir en place

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Lise Boismenu
Kanada
Muttersprache: Französisch

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a wild fidget

Erklärung:
(vibrion = fidget : Harrap's)

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we\'re trying to translate a translation as I don\'t expect the soviet general to have spoken in French.

Oddie
Frankreich
Muttersprache: Französisch

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what a pest! (funny kind of free-roaming bacteria)

Erklärung:
the first is how I would translate it.
The second in brackets is a direct translation, a vibrion being a bakteria.

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bacteria, of course

SwissTell
Vereinigte Staaten
Muttersprache: Deutsch
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one hell of a busybody

Erklärung:
Vibrion is a fidget, but I can't think of an expression using fidget like that. "Fussbudget" would work also, but I don't know if you want to be THAT colloquial.

Source for vibrion = Robert & Collins; I'm also a native speaker.

Good Luck!

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I justify the use of hell by the source. Military personnel (I dislike stereotypes, but there you are), especially when displeased with someone, tend to not mince their words.

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change hell to \"heck\", if it makes you feel better

Theresa Pisani Moniez
Frankreich
Muttersprache: Englisch

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loose cannon

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I suspect they mean that the journalist was a "loose cannon".

Steven Geller
Belgien

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Not exactly an answer to your query, but...

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...I wonder what was actually said in *Russian*. After all, you are translating a subjective term that has already been translated from another language, a language that, as we have learned recently, has heavily coded subjective terms. Cf. what happened to Russian President Putin's very derogatory references to Chechen rebels, when interpreted by a US State Department interpreter. I think I'd probe a bit deeper, maybe ask the ProZ Russian community what *they* think "vibrion libre" might have translated. Some of the most active Russian ProZ are in Canada, and know French as well as English, so they should be able to help. Maybe ProZ needs a trilingual function to deal with this kind of situation?

Yolanda Broad
Vereinigte Staaten
Muttersprache: Englisch

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'pain in the ass' might work

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This is funny.
The idea is pretty understandable and I would render it generally 'pain in the ass'(that person was for the general).
'As energetic and active as (cholera, but not necessariyl) vibrio'.

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Note added at 2002-03-26 16:50:32 (GMT)
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ie that guy was a \"real pain in the ass\" for the general.

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Note added at 2002-03-26 16:54:48 (GMT)
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I believe I know what that general might say in Russian besides mentioning \'a vibrio(n)\'. It could be \'as active as spermatozoon\' or alike (though \'cholera vibrio(n)\' was quite \'usable\' as well).

Vladimir Dubisskiy
Kanada
Muttersprache: Russisch, Ukrainisch
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Französisch: Drole de vibrion libre

Englisch translation: 'real pain in the ass'