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Der Köder muss dem Fisch schmecken, nicht dem Angler

Englisch translation: The bait is supposed to suit/attract the fish, not the angler

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11:22 Oct 5, 2005

Übersetzungen Deutsch > Englisch [PRO]
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Deutsch Begriff oder Satz: Der Köder muss dem Fisch schmecken, nicht dem Angler

A client's just asked me this - i know there's an English equivalent (something about "it's the fish that has to eat the worm..."?) but I can't think of it!

Anyone remember the English saying?

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Englisch Übersetzung:The bait is supposed to suit/attract the fish, not the angler

Erklärung:
not sure if that's a standard phrase, though ...
"appeal to..."

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has to be enjoyed by ...

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The aim is to hook the fish ...
We/you bait the hook to fit the fish ...
http://www.bradley.edu/campusorg/scout/archives/092295/artic...

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This question is under "Idioms / Maxims / Sayings", but is the Asker implying that there is in fact a marketing context involved here?

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Cater to the customer, not to the cook ... ('s calorie count/ culinary crazes)
(summat like that, perhaps - not)

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xxxFrancis Lee
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3 +7

The bait is supposed to suit/attract the fish, not the angler

xxxFrancis Lee

3 +3

The bait should catch the fish not the fisherman

xxxNick Somers

You need to bait the hook to catch the fish

Claire Cox

First spot your fish, then bait your hook (accordingly).

Leveleki

3 +1

Ah but the question is, will it sell?

Andrew Swift

Pick your lure to attract the right fish

Rebecca Garber

We don't eat worms, but that is what fish prefer, so use worms when you want fish.

Fantutti

You can catch more flies with honey than you can with vinegar.

jccantrell

what's good for the goose is not always good for the gander

E Perret

The bait must suit the fish, not the angler

Caro Giese

beauty is in the eye of the beholder

Cilian O'Tuama

The fish must swallow the bait, not the angler/fisherman

Terence Ajbro

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Ah but the question is, will it sell?

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Perhaps the modern marketing equivalent. Not quite so traditionally proverbial, though.
http://telicthoughts.com/?p=102

Andrew Swift
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The bait must suit the fish, not the angler

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found *only* on the reference site, though

Quelle: http://drwagnernet.com/des1/archives/fall01/lect1101.html

Caro Giese
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beauty is in the eye of the beholder

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?

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The fish must swallow the bait, not the angler/fisherman

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open to many interpretations I think.

Terence Ajbro
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You need to bait the hook to catch the fish

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Is the closest I can think of - not sure whether it suits in your particular case!

Claire Cox
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what's good for the goose is not always good for the gander

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does this work?

E Perret
Schweiz
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1 Stunde Antwortsicherheit:

First spot your fish, then bait your hook (accordingly).

Erklärung:
With courtesy of the Provencal "make up a suitable phrase" departmnent!! Actually I just wanted to raise a smile - the one on your photo is so appealing!

Leveleki
Frankreich
Local time: 12:03
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The bait should catch the fish not the fisherman

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... or worm or lure
This version seems to have some currency on the Net

xxxNick Somers
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The bait is supposed to suit/attract the fish, not the angler

xxxFrancis Lee
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Cilian O'Tuama: isn't fisherman more common than angler?

7 Min.

-> Well, my reference indeed cites "fishermen", but there a couple of million hobby anglers in the UK, and I wouldn't call them fishermen.// Correction: in this case I would ... ;-)

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Martina Heintke: There's no equivalent, I spent hours searching once. In a marketing doc I translated it thus: The bait needs to be appropriate for your catch.

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Caro Giese: one match for 'must appeal to': http://www.youthreach.ie/aatopmenu/Library/London/London.htm

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Eckhard Boehle

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Frosty: No problems with this - and I have heard it said in exactly this way at many salesforce `pep-talks´.

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Textklick: With Caro's URL

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Michele Fauble: This is a more or less literal translation, which communicates the meaning in English as well as the original German does,

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Ian M-H

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Pick your lure to attract the right fish

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or attract the right target/prey

Just a thought.

Rebecca Garber
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You can catch more flies with honey than you can with vinegar.

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This is the one that jumped out to me.

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Der Köder muss dem Fisch schmecken, nicht dem Angler We don't eat worms, but that is what fish prefer, so use worms when you want fish.

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I believe it's a Carnegie quotation.

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Oct 5, 2005 - Changes made by Marcus Malabad:
Term asked	Der Köder muss dem Fisch schmecken, nicht dem Angler => Der K�der muss dem Fisch schmecken, nicht dem Angler
Field	Sonstige => Kunst/Literatur

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