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Deutsch Begriff oder Satz:	Böse menschen haben keine Lieder
Englisch Übersetzung:	wicked men have no songs
Eingetragen von:	Courtney Sliwinski

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1:44pm Sep 7, 2007

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Deutsch Begriff oder Satz: Böse menschen haben keine Lieder

Stimmt es, dass böse Männer keine Lieder haben?

Can anyone explain this saying to me? I can't seem to make any sense of it!! Thanks!

Courtney Sliwinski

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xxxFrancis Lee: 6:08pm Sep 9, 2007: More context would help! What kind of register/tone are we looking at here? Retro-medieval, post-punk (of the cyber variety), sycophantic sci-fi etc.?

wicked men have no songs

Erklärung:
Since your text specifies Männer, you could use wicked men, but I like wicked folk.

As the German saying puts it:
"Wo man singt, da lass Dich nieder - böse Menschen haben keine Lieder."

Where people sing, settle down - wicked folk have no songs.

https://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=781787

"Wo man singt, laßt Euch ruhig nieder. Böse Menschen haben keine Lieder."
"Where there's singing, you can settle down. Bad people don't sing songs!"

http://dynamic.olm.net/liederkr/

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Kim Metzger
Mexiko

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I chose to adapt this a little bit. A literal translation was too obscure for my audience, so I changed it to something they would be more familiar with "A wicked man's heart has no joy". Thanks for pointing me in the right direction! You are (as ever) wise beyond your years!
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ZUSAMMENFASSUNG ALLER ÜBERSETZUNGEN (ENGLISCH)

3 +13

wicked men have no songs

Kim Metzger

3 +3

S.u.

BrigitteHilgner

3 +2

bad guys can't sing

Ken Cox

There are/be no warblers amongst the wicked

xxxFrancis Lee

1 +1

Bad people don't have songs

IP-Chemist

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wicked men have no songs

Erklärung:
Since your text specifies Männer, you could use wicked men, but I like wicked folk.

As the German saying puts it:
"Wo man singt, da lass Dich nieder - böse Menschen haben keine Lieder."

Where people sing, settle down - wicked folk have no songs.

https://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=781787

"Wo man singt, laßt Euch ruhig nieder. Böse Menschen haben keine Lieder."
"Where there's singing, you can settle down. Bad people don't sing songs!"

http://dynamic.olm.net/liederkr/

Kim Metzger
Mexiko
Arbeitsgebiet
Muttersprache: Englisch
PRO-Punkte in Kategorie: 108

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vic voskuil: nice, especially with folk indeed!

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Kcda: ...not so much the word "have" But my take = "Bad people don't sing songs" The mistake here if being literal it is apparently only wicked/evil men not women.

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Rebecca Garber

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ace2912: yup, and I like a very slight alteration:"Wicked folk sing no songs"

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Eckhard Boehle

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earthreptile

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Paul Cohen: wicked men sing no songs ... and dead men tell no tales

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Bernhard Sulzer: or maybe: mean people /bad guys have no songs

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Julia Lipeles

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Hilary Davies

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Danjela: Why not "have"? First of all you must have songs before you sing songs. And I think that is the point. There are böse Menschen who sing once you give them a song :)

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Z.E. Ball: Where I come from, song or music comes from the heart and bad/evil people don't have heart or soul. Ever heard the Devil sing? ;-))

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xxxFrancis Lee: Does anybody understand Kcda's reservation re. "have"??/ And certainly strange coming from a "native-speaker" ...

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-> RR = 14%

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S.u.

Erklärung:
I am quoting from Georg Büchmanns "Geflügelte Worte":
Gedicht "Die Gesänge" [von Johann Gottfried Seume], dessen erste Stophe:
"Wo man singet, laß dich ruhig nieder,
Ohne Furcht, was man im Lande glaubt;
Wo man singet, wird kein Mensch beraubt;
Bösewichter haben keine Lieder"
vom Volksmund umgewandelt worden ist in:
"Wo man singt, da laß dich ruhig nieder,
Böse Menschen haben keine Lieder."

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Note added at 39 mins (2007-09-07 14:24:03 GMT)
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In English maybe something like:
Nasty people don't/won't sing/don't know how to sing

BrigitteHilgner
Österreich
Muttersprache: Deutsch
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Kcda: Yes. I was thinking this way too eg. evil men do not sing songs or create them. Since "haben" here is metaphoricall not 1:1 posses or have songs but rather are evil, not cheerfull, well intended etc. therefore they would not sing/produce/create songs!

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-> Thank you, Kcda. Yes, I agree that a literal translation is not the best option - maybe "They don't know how to sing"? Have a nice weekend!

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Ingeborg Gowans: yes, indeed, I immediately thought of this song and was transported back to my childhood; we sang so many songs. I think today's kids don't have a "Liederschatz"

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-> Thank you, Ingeborg. (It's been a bit hectic the last couple of days - but I'll get around to answering your e-mail!)

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Danjela: agree and with Ingeborg - here they are talking about the "Liederschatz"

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-> Thank you, Danjela. Have a nice weekend.

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Bad people don't have songs

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2006 - Bad people don't have songs ...
As a German saying goes: Where there is singing, you can make your home - bad people don't have songs! Every three years the Volksmusikerbund NRW members ...

Quelle: http://www.geschichte.nrw.de/artikel.php?artikel%5Bid%5D=777...

IP-Chemist

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bad guys can't sing

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if it fits your context

(in the spirit of white folks can't dance, whities can't sing the blues, etc.)

Ken Cox
Niederlande
Muttersprache: Englisch
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There are/be no warblers amongst the wicked

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My very first thought upon seeing the question: "warbler" in the sense of "crooner" or "singer".
Just a thought - depends on the context! ;-)

Then again, it could just mean that they have nowt to sing about ...

xxxFrancis Lee
Deutschland
Arbeitsgebiet
Muttersprache: Englisch
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Deutsch: Böse menschen haben keine Lieder

Englisch translation: wicked men have no songs