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Deutsch: Aut idem

Englisch translation: aut-idem (exactly identical)







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Deutsch Begriff oder Satz:Aut idem
Englisch Übersetzung:aut-idem (exactly identical)
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Deutsch Begriff oder Satz: Aut idem
no other context. Am not sure if it's a latin saying or a typo? Thanks in advance
Jonathan MacKerron
Deutschland
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Jonathan MacKerron (asker): 9:49am Dec 29, 2004: Can it be left as is in English??
EdithK: 9:50am Dec 29, 2004: yes -
Nesrin: 9:55am Dec 29, 2004: Please note that all Google results point to German sites (in the German or the English language), so it's obviously not commonly used in English-speaking countries. It would be useful to add a note, like here: -
Nesrin: 9:55am Dec 29, 2004: For example, the aut-idem (latin; "or similar") regulation, introduced in February 2002, allows pharmacies to opt for substituting a prescribed drug with a ...

www.pharmsinfo.com/archive/PIAAABAW.htm
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EdithK: 9:59am Dec 29, 2004: Also used in English by doctors etc though admittedly German sites were given as reference. And it's not 'similar' as Nesrin mentions but 'exactly identical'. -
Jonathan MacKerron (asker): 10:02am Dec 29, 2004: yes, I was thinking "aut-idem regulations" might be more succinct here?
Jonathan MacKerron (asker): 10:04am Dec 29, 2004: can anyone out there please give me a brief definition of what it means in practical terms, thanks!
EdithK: 10:07am Dec 29, 2004: It means that if you have a generic drug, the ingredients of same have to be exactly the same as the ingredients of the original drug. -
Nesrin: 10:09am Dec 29, 2004: You'll find a useful explanation of the regulation in the link I provided above (though I AGREE with Edith that "aut idem" literally means "the same"): -
Nesrin: 10:11am Dec 29, 2004: "the aut-idem (latin; "or similar")regulation, introduced in February 2002, allows pharmacies to opt for substituting a prescribed drug with a cheaper equivalent if available and in the absence of a doctor's request for the specific drug to be prescribed" -
EdithK: 10:11am Dec 29, 2004: It could also mean in practical terms that the effects should be the same, when seeing it from the patients' point of view, or the galenics should be the same. Lots of dicussions about this. Literally it means 'or the same'. -
Dylan Edwards: 12:25pm Dec 29, 2004: I agree about the literal meaning of the Latin, but "or equivalent" would be preferable. -

the same
Erklärung:
Yes, it's Latin:
http://www.mult-sclerosis.org/news/Mar2002/GermanDoctorsBoyc...

"The law is generally described in Germany with the Latin words 'aut idem', or 'the same'."

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Note added at 7 mins (2004-12-29 09:50:51 GMT)
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It\'s also used in medical contexts:
lat.: \"oder dasselbe\".
Bedeutet ein Wirkstoff-gleiches Arzneimittel eines anderen Herstellers.
http://www.bvmed.de/glossar/glossar/Aut_idem.html
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Christian
Deutschland
Hinweis von Fragesteller an den Antwortenden
I'm leaving it as is, since most readers will understand it without further explanation
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ZUSAMMENFASSUNG ALLER ÜBERSETZUNGEN (ENGLISCH)
4 +1the same
Christian
4 +1aut idem / exactly identicalEdithK


  


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6 Min.   Antwortsicherheit: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 Zustimmung (Netto): +1
aut idem / exactly identical

Erklärung:
meaning: exactly idential (in pharmaceutical terms)

... active-substance identical topical dermatics without bio-equivalence proof are not
exchangeable and therefore have to be excluded from the aut-idem regulation. ...
www.dermotopics.de/english/ issue_2_02_e/symposium_2_02_e.htm - 19k - Im Cache - Ähnliche Seiten

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... Overall, the change in the "aut idem" regulation gives rise to a number of ... that
substitution is only possible for pharmaceuticals with identical potency and ...
www.berlin-chemie.de/english/ ges/wachstumsmarkt/gkv.html -

EdithK
Deutschland
Muttersprache: Deutsch, Englisch
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Zustimmung David Moore
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  -> Thanks David.
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4 Min.   Antwortsicherheit: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 Zustimmung (Netto): +1
the same

Erklärung:
Yes, it's Latin:
http://www.mult-sclerosis.org/news/Mar2002/GermanDoctorsBoyc...

"The law is generally described in Germany with the Latin words 'aut idem', or 'the same'."

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Note added at 7 mins (2004-12-29 09:50:51 GMT)
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It\'s also used in medical contexts:
lat.: \"oder dasselbe\".
Bedeutet ein Wirkstoff-gleiches Arzneimittel eines anderen Herstellers.
http://www.bvmed.de/glossar/glossar/Aut_idem.html

Christian
Deutschland
Muttersprache: Deutsch
PRO-Punkte in Kategorie: 4
Hinweis von Fragesteller an den Antwortenden
I'm leaving it as is, since most readers will understand it without further explanation

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Zustimmung Nesrin: literally "or the same"
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