Deutsch: auf höherem WindEnglisch translation: on higher wind pressure 
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Art/Literary - Musik | | Deutsch Begriff oder Satz: auf höherem Wind | I have this in a description of a recently built large organ:
"In der Mitte befinden sich die besonders markanten, kupferroten Horizontaltrompeten auf höherem Wind, im Prospekt deutlich auszumachen."
Is this "auf höherem Wind" a German expression that I don´t recognise?
Or maybe it is an indication that these pipes have higher wind pressure than others (but I found no other evidence of this in the specification)?
Or is this sentence victim of a typo (it wouldn´t be the only one in the document)?
All suggestions gratefully received. |
| | Notiz(en) an den/des Fragesteller(s)Johanna Timm, PhD: 2:07am Jun 12, 2006: no answer ... but a neat trilingual organ glossary that might help you :http://www.frauke-mekelburg.de/orgel/orgel_lex.htm -
Richard Benham: 7:56am Jun 15, 2006: 8' and 4': now that is showing off! The 4' would presumably be Horizontal Clairon, of course. -
Chris Rowson: 9:06am Jul 28, 2006: Looking at this later, - it strikes me that the correct phrase is "on higher wind pressure". I even used this without thinking in my original note.
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| | on higher air pressure | Erklärung:
I'm not very confident about this, except that it makes sense as a translation and trumpet stops with higher wind pressure are not uncommon in larger organs.
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Note added at 3 hrs (2006-06-11 14:46:25 GMT)
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I suggest you check out www.organstops.org. There is an entry on "horizontal trumpet", also known as "trompette en chamade", which complains that this stop is often included as a status symbol, and that the volume is often greater than the rest of the organ put together. It doesn't say this, but it rather suggests that a higher pressure would be required.
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Note added at 3 hrs (2006-06-11 14:50:10 GMT)
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BTW Horizontal Trumpet is an 8-foot stop: it doesn't sound any higher than the standard diapason. |
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Richard Benham
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| Hinweis von Fragesteller an den AntwortendenJohanna´s venture into unknown territory was very impressive, and came in useful for another translation, as did her glossary – thankyou! However, in this case I´m sure Richard has this right: I found a statement later in the text that the section which contains these stops has higher wind pressure.
I also agree that these things are often status symbols. As far as I know, they were originally a Spanish feature, and were only picked up by other builders in the last 20 years or so. This organ apparently aspires to particularly high status: it has both an 8´ and a 4´.
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| high-(re)sounding pipes
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What they mean is that this pipes sound higher, but they do stand out from the others because of their colour
I don't think you need to say higher sounding...
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| on higher air pressure
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I'm not very confident about this, except that it makes sense as a translation and trumpet stops with higher wind pressure are not uncommon in larger organs.
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Note added at 3 hrs (2006-06-11 14:46:25 GMT)
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I suggest you check out www.organstops.org. There is an entry on "horizontal trumpet", also known as "trompette en chamade", which complains that this stop is often included as a status symbol, and that the volume is often greater than the rest of the organ put together. It doesn't say this, but it rather suggests that a higher pressure would be required.
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Note added at 3 hrs (2006-06-11 14:50:10 GMT)
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BTW Horizontal Trumpet is an 8-foot stop: it doesn't sound any higher than the standard diapason.
| | Hinweis von Fragesteller an den AntwortendenJohanna´s venture into unknown territory was very impressive, and came in useful for another translation, as did her glossary – thankyou! However, in this case I´m sure Richard has this right: I found a statement later in the text that the section which contains these stops has higher wind pressure.
I also agree that these things are often status symbols. As far as I know, they were originally a Spanish feature, and were only picked up by other builders in the last 20 years or so. This organ apparently aspires to particularly high status: it has both an 8´ and a 4´. |
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| on a higher stop channel
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Caveat: This suggestion is strictly based on googling - music is not my field of expertise.
I googled the phrase “Auf einer gemeinsamen Registerkanzelle” and found this statement:
“Diese Pfeifenanordnung in Verbindung mit der elektrischen Traktur der Pfeifen durch Hülsenmagnete wurde gewählt, damit alle Pfeifen auf einer gemeinsamen Registerkanzelle ("auf einem Wind") stehen können.”
http://www.eufonia.de/deutsch/orgel.php
It follows that that “auf höherem Wind” = "auf einer höheren Registerkanzelle”
Now for the term Registerkanzelle:
Starting with a definition:
Registerkanzelle: Bei den Registerkanzellen stehen über einer Kanzelle alle zu einem Register gehörenden Pfeifen. Wird eine Taste gedrückt, öffnen sich alle Ventile, die zu diesem Ton gehören, auch die der nicht eingeschalteten Register. Da sich aber nur in den Registerkanzellen der eingeschalteten Register Wind befindet, klingt nur das erwünschte Register.
Source: www.kollegiorgel.ch/lexikon_uebersicht.html?& tx_rhuglossary_pi1%5Bentry%5D=337&cHash=4297fba5b2 - 37k
English term for (Ton) Kanzelle: bar or channel
English term for Register: stop
Source: http://www.baroquemusic.org/orgdict.html
>>>ergo: Registerkanzelle= stop channel
Based on the quote above( auf gemeinsamem Wind.),
‘Auf höherem Wind” would mean: “on a higher stop channel”
As I said, I'm not an expert, but maybe this helps somebody else to point you to the correct terminology ;)
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