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Spanisch: alcanotérreos

Englisch translation: alkaline earth metals



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Spanisch Begriff oder Satz:alcanotérreos
Englisch Übersetzung:alkaline earth metals
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Übersetzungen Spanisch > Englisch [PRO]
Science - Biologie, Biochemie, Mikrobiologie
Spanisch Begriff oder Satz: alcanotérreos
Además, el 10 % de la materia que lo compone es en su mayoría material mineral (ceniza), en su mayor parte carbonatos y alcanotérreos, juntamente con silicio
Chanda Danley
Spanien
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Dr. Andrew Frankland: 7:42am Sep 26, 2006: What's the context? The alkaline earth metals are unlikely to be present as the metals themselves.
Chanda Danley: 8:16am Sep 26, 2006: Context - a document talking about the use of active carbon for water purification.
Chanda Danley: 8:18am Sep 26, 2006: Alcanlinotérreos would be the word I was looking for...this source document has many errors. Thanks all of you for your help in identifying this problem.
Dr. Andrew Frankland: 8:19am Sep 26, 2006: It cannot be the metals themselves, then, as they react rather vigourously with water.
Chanda Danley: 8:19am Sep 26, 2006: Now I just made a mistake...I meant 'Alcalinotérreos'...no wonder I couldn't figure it out.
Dr. Andrew Frankland: 9:26am Sep 26, 2006: Silicon is also not found native. This most probably refers to silica (silicon dioxide).
Dr. Andrew Frankland: 2:19pm Sep 26, 2006: Summary: Alkaline earth metals is wrong IN THIS CONTEXT, as is silicon. None of these exist as the pure elements in nature. In other contexts it would be the correct translation. The source document apparently has many errors, and this is one of them.

alkaline earth metals
Erklärung:
alcalinotérreos

El nombre de alcalinotérreos proviene del nombre que recibían sus óxidos, tierras, que tienen propiedades básicas (alcalinas).


The alkaline earth metals are the series of elements in Group 2 (IUPAC style) of the periodic table: beryllium (Be), magnesium (Mg), calcium (Ca), strontium (Sr), barium (Ba) and radium (Ra) (though radium is not always considered an alkaline earth due to its radioactivity).

The alkaline earth metals are named after their oxides, the alkaline earths, whose old-fashioned names were beryllia, magnesia, lime, strontia and baryta. These were named alkaline earths because of their intermediate nature between the alkalis (oxides of the alkali metals) and the rare earths (oxides of rare earth metals). The classification of some apparently inert substances as 'earths' is millennia old. The earliest known system used by the ancient Greeks consisted of four elements, including earth. This system was later refined by philosophers and alchemists such as Aristotle (4th century BC), Paracelsus (first half of 16th century), John Becher (mid 17th century) and Georg Stahl (late 17th century), with later thinkers subdividing 'earth' into three or more types. The realization that 'earths' were not elements but compounds is attributed to the chemist Antoine Lavoisier. In his Traité Élémentaire de Chimie (Elements of Chemistry) of 1789 he called them Substances simples salifiables terreuses, or salt-forming earth elements. Later, he suggested that the alkaline earths might be metal oxides, but admitted that this was mere conjecture. In 1808, acting on Lavoisier's idea, Humphry Davy became the first to obtain samples of the metals by electrolysis of their molten earths.



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Maria Luisa Duarte
Spanien
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Thanks for everyone's help, but I think this is best in this context...all things considered, I am not responsible for correcting the source text, only for translating it.
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5 +1alkaline earth metals
Maria Luisa Duarte
5alkaline metals (alcalinotérreos?)
Paulo César Mendes MD, CT
4alkaline earth metal oxides
Dr. Andrew Frankland


  


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alcalinotérreos alkaline earth metals

Erklärung:
alcalinotérreos

El nombre de alcalinotérreos proviene del nombre que recibían sus óxidos, tierras, que tienen propiedades básicas (alcalinas).


The alkaline earth metals are the series of elements in Group 2 (IUPAC style) of the periodic table: beryllium (Be), magnesium (Mg), calcium (Ca), strontium (Sr), barium (Ba) and radium (Ra) (though radium is not always considered an alkaline earth due to its radioactivity).

The alkaline earth metals are named after their oxides, the alkaline earths, whose old-fashioned names were beryllia, magnesia, lime, strontia and baryta. These were named alkaline earths because of their intermediate nature between the alkalis (oxides of the alkali metals) and the rare earths (oxides of rare earth metals). The classification of some apparently inert substances as 'earths' is millennia old. The earliest known system used by the ancient Greeks consisted of four elements, including earth. This system was later refined by philosophers and alchemists such as Aristotle (4th century BC), Paracelsus (first half of 16th century), John Becher (mid 17th century) and Georg Stahl (late 17th century), with later thinkers subdividing 'earth' into three or more types. The realization that 'earths' were not elements but compounds is attributed to the chemist Antoine Lavoisier. In his Traité Élémentaire de Chimie (Elements of Chemistry) of 1789 he called them Substances simples salifiables terreuses, or salt-forming earth elements. Later, he suggested that the alkaline earths might be metal oxides, but admitted that this was mere conjecture. In 1808, acting on Lavoisier's idea, Humphry Davy became the first to obtain samples of the metals by electrolysis of their molten earths.



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    Quelle: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alkaline_earth_metal
    Quelle: http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcalinot%C3%A9rreo
Maria Luisa Duarte
Spanien
Muttersprache: Englisch, Portugiesisch
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Thanks for everyone's help, but I think this is best in this context...all things considered, I am not responsible for correcting the source text, only for translating it.

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Zustimmung Paulo César Mendes MD, CT: Parfait!
59 Min.
  -> Thank's!MLD

Zustimmung David Brown: exactly
3 Stunden
  -> Thank's!MLD

Widerspruch Dr. Andrew Frankland: The presence of alkaline earth metals under these circumstances is chemically impossible! The asker has mentioned that there are many mistakes in the source text.
4 Stunden
  -> I don't agree with you Mr. Frankland!MLD
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alcalinotérreos alkaline earth metal oxides

Erklärung:
As the metals themselves are not found naturally and are not likely to be produced under biological conditions, and as the context given refers to carbonates, minerals and silica, this is my suggestion derived from the original definition of "alkaline earths", i.e. the minerals beryllia, magnesia, lime, strontia and baryta, which are the oxides of Be, Mg, Ca, Sr and Ba, respectively.

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Dr. Andrew Frankland
Spanien
Arbeitsgebiet
Muttersprache: Englisch
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alkaline metals (alcalinotérreos?)

Erklärung:
The second column in the periodic table.

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In ash, they are most probably oxides or carbonates. As the source document lists the elements without specifying the exact compounds, I think it is reasonable to write "...mostly carbonates and alkaline earth metals, as well as silicon."

NB.: NOT "alkaline earth metal carbonates"

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The author just stated that the ash contains "[elements] A, B, C, ... and Z", without elaborating on the exact compounds they are forming, probably because this is not relevant to the subject; i.e., the filter's biological characteristics (I presume). He just stated that "[elements] A, B, C, ... and Z are present".

"Carbonatos" is most probably an indirect alusion to the ash's carbon content.


    Quelle: http://modelscience.com/PeriodicTable.html
Paulo César Mendes MD, CT
Brasilien
Spezialgebiet
Muttersprache: Portugiesisch

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Neutraler Kommentar Dr. Andrew Frankland: That would make it alkaline EARTH metals. Many people, even some chemists, fail to distinguish between the alkali metals (group 1) and the alkaline earth metals (group 2).
56 Min.
  -> Indeed, you are right
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