Nov 11, 2005 14:00
18 yrs ago
French term
flèche au mètre
French to English
Tech/Engineering
Metallurgy / Casting
steel tubes
It's the 6th bullet point down in the following, taken from a document of terms & conditions for the supplying of an installation to be used for the production of steel tubes. I'd also be grateful for an explanation of 'arc' within the same context if there are any metalworking experts out there. Thanks.
PRINCIPALES CARACTERISTIQUES DES PRODUITS A TRAITER PAR L’INSTALLATION
A titre d’exemple, caractéristiques qui peuvent être prises en compte.
Tolérances dimensionnelles (ovalisation, excentration,…)
Diamètre mini maxi
Longueur mini maxi
Poids mini maxi
Température
Rectitude (arc, flèche au mètre, ondulation…)
Caractéristiques mécaniques (mètre, épaisseur..)
Nuance
Taille du cordon de soudure
Aspect (étirés, soudés…)
Etat de surface (rugosité, rectifié, protection huileuse, vernis…)
Etat de propreté (poussière, calamine, graisse, copeaux, oxydation…)
Caractéristiques des extrémités
PRINCIPALES CARACTERISTIQUES DES PRODUITS A TRAITER PAR L’INSTALLATION
A titre d’exemple, caractéristiques qui peuvent être prises en compte.
Tolérances dimensionnelles (ovalisation, excentration,…)
Diamètre mini maxi
Longueur mini maxi
Poids mini maxi
Température
Rectitude (arc, flèche au mètre, ondulation…)
Caractéristiques mécaniques (mètre, épaisseur..)
Nuance
Taille du cordon de soudure
Aspect (étirés, soudés…)
Etat de surface (rugosité, rectifié, protection huileuse, vernis…)
Etat de propreté (poussière, calamine, graisse, copeaux, oxydation…)
Caractéristiques des extrémités
Proposed translations
(English)
2 | distortion OR deviation per metre | Tony M |
5 | deviation from straightness | Mario Calvagna |
4 | deflection | Richard Hedger |
3 | deflection per metre | David Sirett |
Proposed translations
43 mins
French term (edited):
fl�che au m�tre
Selected
distortion OR deviation per metre
Although David's of course right in all normal senses of 'flèche', I feel that here they are more likely talking about the various ways in which the product itself may be 'out of true' in a linear sense.
The three things they are describing are, I believe:
curvature (overall)
deviation from straightness (any cause) over any one measured metre length
and waviness
The point about specifying 'flèche par mètre' is that it gives a better correlation with the significance of the error; it's like specifying a floor as being 'flat within 1 mm per metre' = no more than 1 mm deviation when moving 1 m from a given point in any direction.
So you might have a length of steel that has, say, an overall tendency to curve, but over any single metre length measured, the deviation from straight might be insignificantly small. Conversely, you might have a length that appears straight as a die from one end to the other, but is as bent as a fiddler's elbow in between.
Unfortunately, although I believe I am right about the parameters being described, I fear I am far less confident about these actual terms I've used to describe them. But I hope at least this explanation may help get you on the right track, and that someone more knowledgeable will check in with the authoritative answer on the actual terms themselves
The three things they are describing are, I believe:
curvature (overall)
deviation from straightness (any cause) over any one measured metre length
and waviness
The point about specifying 'flèche par mètre' is that it gives a better correlation with the significance of the error; it's like specifying a floor as being 'flat within 1 mm per metre' = no more than 1 mm deviation when moving 1 m from a given point in any direction.
So you might have a length of steel that has, say, an overall tendency to curve, but over any single metre length measured, the deviation from straight might be insignificantly small. Conversely, you might have a length that appears straight as a die from one end to the other, but is as bent as a fiddler's elbow in between.
Unfortunately, although I believe I am right about the parameters being described, I fear I am far less confident about these actual terms I've used to describe them. But I hope at least this explanation may help get you on the right track, and that someone more knowledgeable will check in with the authoritative answer on the actual terms themselves
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Awarding the points to you Dusty, for your excellent explanation. Very helpful, thank you! "
32 mins
French term (edited):
fl�che au m�tre
deflection per metre
Measure of extent to which the product 'sags' between supports.
55 mins
French term (edited):
fl�che au m�tre
deflection
This is most likely the deflection of an element of a given length under certain laod conditions. For example, for a maximum "deflection" of L/300 a beam of 6000mm length must not bend more than 6000mm/300 = 20mm at its middle. For a beam length of 12000mm this would be 12000/300 = 40mm. I hope this helps and that its in the right context.
48 mins
French term (edited):
fl�che au m�tre
deviation from straightness
Arc is roundness
I would translate
Rectitude (arc, flèche au mètre, ondulation…)= straightness(roundness, deviation from straightness, ondulation)
This is what I used in my metalworking days
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Note added at 53 mins (2005-11-11 14:54:06 GMT)
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another term for fleche could be bowing (more slang though)
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Note added at 1 hr 3 mins (2005-11-11 15:03:37 GMT)
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well, here there was me all certain and I made a mistake. went to look at my technical papers and arc in this case is not roundness but sagging, normally tested as David says. But is different from straightness, which is measured with the tube lying flat on a surface. sorry about the mistake I was thinking about arc in metal wire term not metal tubes
I would translate
Rectitude (arc, flèche au mètre, ondulation…)= straightness(roundness, deviation from straightness, ondulation)
This is what I used in my metalworking days
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Note added at 53 mins (2005-11-11 14:54:06 GMT)
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another term for fleche could be bowing (more slang though)
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Note added at 1 hr 3 mins (2005-11-11 15:03:37 GMT)
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well, here there was me all certain and I made a mistake. went to look at my technical papers and arc in this case is not roundness but sagging, normally tested as David says. But is different from straightness, which is measured with the tube lying flat on a surface. sorry about the mistake I was thinking about arc in metal wire term not metal tubes
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