Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Russian term or phrase:
казарменный коммунизм
English translation:
barrack communism
Added to glossary by
Alan Campbell
Nov 1, 2004 09:24
19 yrs ago
Russian term
казарменный коммунизм
Russian to English
Science
History
This is the text of a speech by Gorbachev expounding the virtues of perestroika, given in 1989. He mentions Marx' «казарменный коммунизм» and I don't know how to render that into English
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 +10 | barrack-style communism |
Jarema
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| 5 +4 | Barrack communism |
Sergey Strakhov
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| 4 +3 | barrack communism |
2rush
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| 4 | military(ist) communism |
Levan Namoradze
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Change log
Sep 27, 2006 06:47: Jarema changed "Term asked" from "���������� ���������" to "казарменный коммунизм" , "Field" from "Other" to "Science" , "Field (specific)" from "Philosophy" to "History"
Proposed translations
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Russian term (edited):
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barrack-style communism
barrack-style communism
... Out of love for freedom, we reject any monastic or barrack-style communism, the
communism of ant-heap and beehive, and the shepherd-and-flock type communism of ...
flag.blackened.net/liberty/libcom.html - 61k
Or
barrack communism
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Note added at 3 mins (2004-11-01 09:27:47 GMT)
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... President Dem Rep , etc , there is barrack communism (like in USSR) , communism
with capitalist face (China) and Social-Democracy(as half of Europe is). ...
apolyton.net/forums/showthread. php?s=&threadid=122245
... Marx and marxists, as far as I understand it, do not want to make everybody identical
as in some sort of barrack communism...it would be (and has been ...
archives.econ.utah.edu/archives/ marxism-intro/2003m10/msg00129.htm
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Note added at 9 mins (2004-11-01 09:34:11 GMT)
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И определение. На всякий случай.
Казарменный коммунизм
Barrack communism
Казарменный коммунизм - по К.Марксу и Ф.Энгельсу - основанная на низком уровне развития производительных сил вульгаризованная концепция коммунизма как предельно бюрократизированного общественного устройства, основанного на деспотизме революционных лидеров, аскетизме и полном подавлении личности.
http://www.glossary.ru/cgi-bin/gl_sch2.cgi?RKussztons
... Out of love for freedom, we reject any monastic or barrack-style communism, the
communism of ant-heap and beehive, and the shepherd-and-flock type communism of ...
flag.blackened.net/liberty/libcom.html - 61k
Or
barrack communism
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Note added at 3 mins (2004-11-01 09:27:47 GMT)
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... President Dem Rep , etc , there is barrack communism (like in USSR) , communism
with capitalist face (China) and Social-Democracy(as half of Europe is). ...
apolyton.net/forums/showthread. php?s=&threadid=122245
... Marx and marxists, as far as I understand it, do not want to make everybody identical
as in some sort of barrack communism...it would be (and has been ...
archives.econ.utah.edu/archives/ marxism-intro/2003m10/msg00129.htm
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Note added at 9 mins (2004-11-01 09:34:11 GMT)
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И определение. На всякий случай.
Казарменный коммунизм
Barrack communism
Казарменный коммунизм - по К.Марксу и Ф.Энгельсу - основанная на низком уровне развития производительных сил вульгаризованная концепция коммунизма как предельно бюрократизированного общественного устройства, основанного на деспотизме революционных лидеров, аскетизме и полном подавлении личности.
http://www.glossary.ru/cgi-bin/gl_sch2.cgi?RKussztons
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thank you all for your help with this. Indeed, 'military communism' also appears in the text as simply 'военный'"
1 min
Levan Namoradze
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Russian term (edited):
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military(ist) communism
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Note added at 2 mins (2004-11-01 09:27:02 GMT)
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In other words, when the whole society acts and lives like a military unit.
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Note added at 2 mins (2004-11-01 09:27:02 GMT)
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In other words, when the whole society acts and lives like a military unit.
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Russian term (edited):
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barrack communism
"Казарменный коммунизм Barrack communism
Казарменный коммунизм - по К.Марксу и Ф.Энгельсу - основанная на низком уровне развития производительных сил вульгаризованная концепция коммунизма как предельно бюрократизированного общественного устройства, основанного на деспотизме революционных лидеров, аскетизме и полном подавлении личности..."
http://www.glossary.ru/cgi-bin/gl_sch2.cgi?RKussztons
Казарменный коммунизм - по К.Марксу и Ф.Энгельсу - основанная на низком уровне развития производительных сил вульгаризованная концепция коммунизма как предельно бюрократизированного общественного устройства, основанного на деспотизме революционных лидеров, аскетизме и полном подавлении личности..."
http://www.glossary.ru/cgi-bin/gl_sch2.cgi?RKussztons
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Sergey Strakhov
: You were the first:)
28 mins
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Yeah, but not the only...; ) Thank you, Sergey
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| agree |
Vladimir Dubisskiy
: why nobody cited Marx/Engels in English - how it was translated..
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Yeah, they don't grow on trees. ;))
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Irene N
: VD - maybe English-speaking world stopped translating those guys even before Russia ended up with barrack communism? :-) Good for them!
8 hrs
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Lest we forget... ;))
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7 mins
Sergey Strakhov
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Russian term (edited):
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Barrack communism
Only in such way. You see, "military communism" means a certain period in early Soviet history (1918 till 1920). The subject of your text deals with the totally different term of "barrack communism", or declared equally low conditions for everybody in tthe country
Глоссарий.ru
... любые потребности. Казарменный коммунизм. Barrack communism. Казарменный коммунизм ...
www.glossary.ru/cgi-bin/gl_sch2.cgi?RKussztons - 22k
Глоссарий.ru
... любые потребности. Казарменный коммунизм. Barrack communism. Казарменный коммунизм ...
www.glossary.ru/cgi-bin/gl_sch2.cgi?RKussztons - 22k
Peer comment(s):
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2rush
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Thanks!
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Stanislav Osadchiy
: Очень уместно разъяснение отличия военного коммунизма от казарменного.
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Спасибо!:)
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Vladimir Dubisskiy
: definitely NOT 'military communism' (it's a different concept indeed)
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Спасибо!:)
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Irene N
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