May 23, 2007 14:37
17 yrs ago
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Russian term
Skilled & accurate
Native in: Russian (Variant: Standard-Russia) 
Works in: Russian to English, English to Russian
Гласные и …несогласные.
Russian to English
Other
Idioms / Maxims / Sayings
title of an article
"Гласные и …несогласные. Новый российский алфавит."
Речь в статье идет о "Марше несогласных".
Речь в статье идет о "Марше несогласных".
Proposed translations
(English)
Proposed translations
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1 hr
David Knowles
Native in English
Works in field
Specialist in Civil Law & Contracts
Native in: English 
Works in: Russian to English, English, Ukrainian to English
Related KudoZ points
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36
Selected
concord and discord
the new Russian [musical] scale.
Depends on how far the "alphabet" analogy is continued in the article!
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Note added at 3 hrs (2007-05-23 17:52:12 GMT)
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OK - I've looked at this more seriously. The best translation I can find for this march is "The Dissenters March". Since the title (as is common) is not closely connected with the article, I suggest something like "Consent and Dissent on the March against Putin". There is no need to follow the "alphabet" analogy or my "musical scale". See for example http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissenters_March
Depends on how far the "alphabet" analogy is continued in the article!
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Note added at 3 hrs (2007-05-23 17:52:12 GMT)
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OK - I've looked at this more seriously. The best translation I can find for this march is "The Dissenters March". Since the title (as is common) is not closely connected with the article, I suggest something like "Consent and Dissent on the March against Putin". There is no need to follow the "alphabet" analogy or my "musical scale". See for example http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissenters_March
Note from asker:
| Again, it's just a title and nothing about the "alphabet" in the article which describes "March of the Discontented" and the author expresses its opinion on Putin's rule |
| I am thinking about your variant, David, which indeed sounds well, but it may be translated as "согласные и несогласные" but "гласные" is a different word, it may also originate from the word "glasnosti" and may mean something like "those allowed to speak" |
Peer comment(s):
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Kirill Semenov
: sounds nice, David :)
26 mins
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Thanks Kirill - what do you think of my new suggestion?
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Blithe
: I like the musical version. It conveys the meaning anyway.
2 hrs
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| agree |
Henry Schroeder
: Definitely agree with the explanation!
2 hrs
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Alexander Demyanov
: A fine title for the subject. However, it throws away the original's wordplay.
4 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
+4
13 mins
Alexander Demyanov
Native in Russian
Works in field
Software Engineering background
Native in: Russian
Works in: English, Russian, Russian to English, and 1 more.
The voiced and ...the inconsonant
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http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/inconsonant
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Note added at 14 mins (2007-05-23 14:52:27 GMT)
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http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/inconsonant
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Dmitry Venyavkin
5 hrs
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Thanks, Dmitry!
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Tevah_Trans
6 hrs
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Thanks, Tevah!
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Andrew Vdovin
: Nice!
14 hrs
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Thanks, Andrew!
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Сергей Лузан
: Voiced & unvoiced?
1 day 21 hrs
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Thanks, Sergej! Actually, I wanted to use "inconsonant" because it's the same word play as in the Russian "несогласные": "consonant" means "согласная буква"
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18 mins
Natalia Potashnik
United States
United States
Native in Russian
United States
English -> Russian
Native in: Russian (Variant: Standard-Russia)
Works in: English to Russian, Russian to English, English, and 1 more.
Related KudoZ points
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4
silent and ... discordant characters
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35 mins
Roman Bardachev
Canada
Canada
Native in Russian
Canada
University Degree in Translation
Native in: Russian
Works in: English to Russian, Russian to English, English, and 1 more.
Related KudoZ points
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12
Vocals and ... discordants
The new Russian alphabet.
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Andrei Terentyev's Foam of the DazeMoscow, April 14:
a "March of Discordants" organized by Russian opposition parties on the Moscow streets has been suppressed by Putin's forces. ...
www.terentyev.net/ - 33k - Cached - Similar pages
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Note added at 40 mins (2007-05-23 15:18:19 GMT)
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Andrei Terentyev's Foam of the DazeMoscow, April 14:
a "March of Discordants" organized by Russian opposition parties on the Moscow streets has been suppressed by Putin's forces. ...
www.terentyev.net/ - 33k - Cached - Similar pages
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
David Knowles
: It would be "vowels"
50 mins
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I know :) Vocals here: outspoken.
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1 day 2 hrs
Dorene Cornwell
Native in English
Works in field
Thorough, sensitive, and idiomatic
Native in: English
Works in: Russian to English, Spanish to English, English, and 2 more.
Related KudoZ points
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4
Consonance and ... discontent
Consonance and ... discontent
discontent is often used in the US to refer to political movements.
In the English I have seen about these marchers, they are called Dissenters' marches so I think consonance and ... dissent would also work and would cue readers to the right context anyway.
discontent is often used in the US to refer to political movements.
In the English I have seen about these marchers, they are called Dissenters' marches so I think consonance and ... dissent would also work and would cue readers to the right context anyway.
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