Glossary entry (derived from question below)
German term or phrase:
interpersonell zugehörig
English translation:
interpersonally engaged
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Susan Welsh
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zugehörig
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In einer Analyse interpersoneller Profile berichteten Patientinnen, die sich zu Behandlungsbeginn als weniger interpersonell **zugehörig** und rigide erlebten, im Therapieverlauf eine bessere therapeutische Beziehung, wenn sie mit KVT, nicht aber mit IPT behandelt wurden [Constantino und Smith-Hansen, 2008].
In an analysis of interpersonal profiles, female patients who at baseline were less interpersonally [??] and rigid reported, in the course of therapy, a better therapeutic relationship if they were treated with CBT, but not with IPT [Constantino and Smith-Hansen, 2008].
CBT = cognitive behavioral therapy
IPT = interpersonal therapy
The only thing I can think of that makes sense for zugehörig here would be something like "dependent," but I can't verify that as a meaning.
The work cited is titled "Patient interpersonal factors and the therapeutic alliance in two treatments for bulimia nervosa."
[Sorry, I messed up the posting of this question somehow.]
Thanks in advance!
In an analysis of interpersonal profiles, female patients who at baseline were less interpersonally [??] and rigid reported, in the course of therapy, a better therapeutic relationship if they were treated with CBT, but not with IPT [Constantino and Smith-Hansen, 2008].
CBT = cognitive behavioral therapy
IPT = interpersonal therapy
The only thing I can think of that makes sense for zugehörig here would be something like "dependent," but I can't verify that as a meaning.
The work cited is titled "Patient interpersonal factors and the therapeutic alliance in two treatments for bulimia nervosa."
[Sorry, I messed up the posting of this question somehow.]
Thanks in advance!
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belonging
Experienced a low, or lack of, sense of belonging. Or failed to experience ...
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Asker's "engaged"goes very well with "interpersonal". My compliments!
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Asker's "engaged"goes very well with "interpersonal". My compliments!
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Comment: "Thanks to all! Horst made it clear to me how this text fits with the "usual" understanding of "zugehörig." I didn't particularly like any of the specific terms suggested, and hope that my own makes the most sense. I think it has to convey the idea that this lack of engagement is a pathology, not just a matter of preference or inclination."
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were less involved at interpersonal level
maybe something along these lines ...
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interpersonal_communicationIt can involve one on one conversations or individuals interacting with many ... involved unlike areas of communication such as group interaction, where there may ... Individuals also communicate on different interpersonal levels depending on who ... When we are less certain we lose confidence in our own plans and make ...
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www.joe.org/joe/2009february/a3.phpInterpersonal level factors involve the primary social relationships ... to their less-acculturated counterparts (Crespo, Smit, Andersen, Carter-Pokras, ... worked full-time (versus those who were not employed) (Neumark-Sztainer, Hannan, Story, ...
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Interpersonal Level
Interpersonal level factors involve the primary social relationships surrounding an individual (friends, family, coworkers, etc.) (McLeroy, Bibeau, Steckler, & Glanz, 1988). Studies show that children's food intake is related to their parents' nutrition knowledge and food intake (Gibson, Wardle, & Watts, 1998; Reinaerts, de Nooijer, Candel, & de Vries, 2007), and it is also influenced by their peers.
Young people tend to associate healthy foods with parents and fast food with pleasure, friendship, and socializing (Shepherd et al., 2006), and they expect negative reactions from their peers about eating healthier foods (Cullen et al., 2001). Education programs that increase nutrition knowledge and peer support for healthful choices may help to overcome these barriers. Lack of social support is also an interpersonal level barrier for physical activity (Wilcox, Castro, King, Housemann, & Brownson, 2000), and Extension programs that encourage group participation (e.g., walking groups, inclusion of friends/family) would be most suitable to target this barrier.
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apparently there are various levels of interaction, interpersonal being one of them
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interpersonal_communicationIt can involve one on one conversations or individuals interacting with many ... involved unlike areas of communication such as group interaction, where there may ... Individuals also communicate on different interpersonal levels depending on who ... When we are less certain we lose confidence in our own plans and make ...
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www.joe.org/joe/2009february/a3.phpInterpersonal level factors involve the primary social relationships ... to their less-acculturated counterparts (Crespo, Smit, Andersen, Carter-Pokras, ... worked full-time (versus those who were not employed) (Neumark-Sztainer, Hannan, Story, ...
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Interpersonal Level
Interpersonal level factors involve the primary social relationships surrounding an individual (friends, family, coworkers, etc.) (McLeroy, Bibeau, Steckler, & Glanz, 1988). Studies show that children's food intake is related to their parents' nutrition knowledge and food intake (Gibson, Wardle, & Watts, 1998; Reinaerts, de Nooijer, Candel, & de Vries, 2007), and it is also influenced by their peers.
Young people tend to associate healthy foods with parents and fast food with pleasure, friendship, and socializing (Shepherd et al., 2006), and they expect negative reactions from their peers about eating healthier foods (Cullen et al., 2001). Education programs that increase nutrition knowledge and peer support for healthful choices may help to overcome these barriers. Lack of social support is also an interpersonal level barrier for physical activity (Wilcox, Castro, King, Housemann, & Brownson, 2000), and Extension programs that encourage group participation (e.g., walking groups, inclusion of friends/family) would be most suitable to target this barrier.
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apparently there are various levels of interaction, interpersonal being one of them
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not fitting in on an interpersonal level
I think this is meant by "zugehörig" here..
..who perceived themselves as not fitting in on an interpersonal level
..who perceived themselves as not fitting in on an interpersonal level
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classed themselves as less interpersonally inclined
It looks to me as though "zugehörig" is about stating which category the patient belongs to - hence my suggestion of "classed as".
Note the major ambiguity of "less interpersonally inclined and rigid", which can be read either as "less interpersonally inclined and less rigid" or as "rigid and less interpersonally inclined" - presumably the latter interpretation is intended.
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I'd go for something like "felt themselves to be" for "sich erlebten" ... but it would be a choice between that and "classed themselves as" as you couldn't use both.
Note the major ambiguity of "less interpersonally inclined and rigid", which can be read either as "less interpersonally inclined and less rigid" or as "rigid and less interpersonally inclined" - presumably the latter interpretation is intended.
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I'd go for something like "felt themselves to be" for "sich erlebten" ... but it would be a choice between that and "classed themselves as" as you couldn't use both.
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| Now that you mention it, I was unsure how to translate "sich erlebten"--thinking in the direction of "experienced themselves to be..." Do you think "classed themselves as" works with sich erlebten? |
Discussion
Interpersonelle Rigidität könnte mit dem strukturierteren Vorgehen der KVT interferieren, während die IPT größere Kontrolle zulässt.
Hingegen könnte bei Zugehörigkeitsproblemen die Beziehung in der KVT positiver ausfallen, weil der Ansatz nicht direkt interpersonell ist.
Reminder to self: Never translate one sentence (segment) at a time!