Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

escalier à pas décalés

English translation:

paddle stairs/alternating tread stairs

Added to glossary by Rachel Fell
Mar 20, 2009 17:47
15 yrs ago
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French term

escalier "à pas décalés"

French to English Other Tourism & Travel
In a very long database on the various features of holiday rentals.

In reference to a mezzanine.

accès par un escalier "à pas décalés"

It's Friday evening and the day has been a long one.

I can't think what is meant here. Is this the same as an "échelle de meunier"?
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Mar 23, 2009 09:08: Rachel Fell changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/54404">Miranda Joubioux (X)'s</a> old entry - "escalier "" to ""paddle stairs/alternating tread stairs""

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Miranda Joubioux (X) (asker) Mar 20, 2009:

Proposed translations

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French term (edited): escalier \"à pas décalés\"
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stairway with paddle steps

another term for them:

3-bedroom House, Semi for sale, Bungay, Suffolk
£110,000

Bungay County of Suffolk

3-bedroom House, Semi for sale, Bungay, Suffolk 5 Pictures leads to the master bedroom, bathroom and second bedroom whilst the other leads via paddle steps to the third bedroom... Accommodation Accessed From Main Staircase Master Bedroom Velux window, exposed beams and timbers, steps up to Inner hall Inner Hall... Staircase Bedroom Three (accessed via paddle stairs) window to the rear aspect, radiator ... The main staircase
http://homes.trovit.co.uk/paddle-steps-staircase

Wedmore County of Somerset

5-bedroom House, Detached for sale, Cribb House Lane, Crickham BS28 10 Pictures sensitive areas. Extractor fan and high level window. GALLERIED LANDING Approached via a concealed staircase from the reception... there are fully glazed double doors opening onto a flight of exterior stone steps with wrought iron balustrade leading down to the garden... ceiling. From the first floor galleried landing there is a further flight of open tread paddle stairs to: MINSTRELS LANDING

The Peel Tower

The oldest part of the building, the Peel Tower, dates from early Norman times............... Its age is unknown but the timber used is certainly ancient. It has a steep flight of 10 steps called paddle steps, designed to support only one foot.

http://www.m-sport.co.uk/history.html

Sleeps 6 in three bedrooms. On the ground floor is a pretty twin-bedded room, down two steps, which has an en suite shower room. On the first floor there is a further twin-bedded room with its own en suite shower room. Then there is the beautiful double bedroom with unusual 'paddle' steps leading to a magnificent bathroom, boasting a free standing, roll-top bath and lovely features right up into the eaves. The paddle steps are not suitable for the infirm and probably not a good idea after that last glass of wine!

http://www.oldhallfarmcottages.co.uk/cottages/corn.asp

Paddle steps or monk's stairs
as they are sometimes known..."

Is there any architect out there?

http://forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php?t=434071
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Many thanks to you all for your answers. I think paddle stairs is particularly appropriate in this context. Some of the alternating tread stairway images I saw on Google were not quite what they mean here, however I am putting it in the glossary, because it is used as well."
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"Savoy" stairs

That's what I refer to them as. High confidence for what they are, but no idea of the proper term, off hand; though I think this has come up on ProZ before, possibly by a different name.

It's stairs where alternate treads are cut away on one side. You therefore HAVE TO put your right and left feet on the "designated" steps, where the tread is full width. Not good for left-footed people if it's a right-footed staircase.

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Also called "à pas japonais" it seems :

http://www.olx.fr/escalier-a-marches-decalees-iid-876808 http://www.menuiserieconfort.fr/esc_japonais.html
(both with photos).

I'm leaving the office now so will leave you to track it down!

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Or up; you'd take all the skin off your chin and shins, I should think.

"Savoy", not because of the hotels, but because I first encountered them when skiing .... not actually with skis on my feet, fortunately ...
Note from asker:
They look like the kind of stairs you wouldn't want to go down after a drink too many :-)
Peer comment(s):

agree Rachel Fell : alternating tread stair acc. to some refs. I'll add below - new to me...
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alternating tread stair

Hello,

I think this is what it is. My god, they look dangerous!

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://image16.websho...

http://www.treehugger.com/2008-03-10_101613-Treehugger-karin...

I hope this helps.

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"Savoy stairs" is very vague et uncommon.
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staiway with offset steps

Never known them as anything else! One situation in life where you have to be sure of getting off on the right foot if you don't want to come a cropper !

http://www.loweconstruction.co.uk/page6/gallery12b.htm

"Looking down the staircase you can see the offset steps which allow safe passage".



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staircase with offset steps (staiway???!!!)
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Reference comments

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Reference:

alternating tread stair

or spacesaver stair (as a type) here:

http://www.midlandladders.com/catalog/Spacesaver_Stairs-17-1...


Understanding the building regulations - Google Books Result
by Simon Polley - 2005 - Technology & Engineering - 280 pages
Tapered tread stairs can also be designed to BS 585: Part 1: 1989. ... Space is saved by alternate cutaway treads which retain the required rise and going ...

http://tinyurl.com/d6nht2

Alternating tread stairs

1.22 This type of stair "Stair A succession of steps and landings that makes it possible to pass on foot to other levels. " is one of a number of stair types designed to save space. The general pattern of steps has alternate handed steps with part of the tread cut away; the user relies on familiarity and regular use for reasonable safety (see Diagram 9 ).

To read more on this topic, you need an NBS Building Regulations subscription.
http://tinyurl.com/djtus3

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Space saving alternating tread stairs or monk stairs:
http://magentasapphire.blogspot.com/2007/11/alternating-stai...

This one is interesting, link from the above site/blog, different style:

http://www.thisoldhouse.com/toh/article/0,,443801,00.html
Peer comments on this reference comment:

agree Emma Paulay : Also found "monk's stairs", "lapeyre stairs" (mostly in industrial contexts) and "staggered stairs".
21 hrs
Thanks Emma - and monk stairs - hmm, reflecting other comments, stairs you wouldn't want to stagger on to...;-)
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