Oct 18, 2015 13:17
8 yrs ago
English term

and may resort to expropriation

English to French Law/Patents Real Estate Land Act
The Land Act is the main Act which governs the registration and use of land. The Land Act provides that the land may be expropriated for public purposes which include water supply, and public utility services.

However there are principles governing the expropriation of land which include negotiation with the holder of land rights subject to expropriation, and *may resort to expropriation if at all negotiations fail.*
Moreover, the Act states that developers must apply and obtain a servitude for the construction of essential services.


NOTE: It seems to me that there is a phrase missing there, and I am struggling to understand the whole sentence. Who may resort to expropriation?

Discussion

Stephanie Sullivan (asker) Oct 19, 2015:
Thanks a lot guys. I am pretty sure now that a word is missing (government/public authorities) since there are words missing in other parts of the document as well.
Daryo Oct 19, 2015:
@AllegroTrans thanks for bringing in some basic "reality checks"!
AllegroTrans Oct 19, 2015:
@ Asker The clue is in "public purposes"
Ergo, the public authorities (pouvoirs publics) are entitled to expropriate
Stephanie Sullivan (asker) Oct 18, 2015:
Thanks polyglot, yes it makes more sense now, but I still have a doubt about who/what may resort to expropriation.
polyglot45 Oct 18, 2015:
may result in... if all negotiations fail the "at" is superfluous

Proposed translations

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English term (edited): and authorities may resort to expropriation
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et les pouvoirs publics pourraient avoir recours à l'expropriation

and authorities may resort to expropriation if at all negotiations fail"

"authorities" is missing - only the State / les pouvoirs publics can impose compulsory purchase of land for public use.
Peer comment(s):

agree Claire Bouchery
14 hrs
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19 mins

peuvent entraîner l'expropriation

`--une proposition
je pense qu'effectivement il manque un sujet à ce bout de phrase, et que le sujet est "principles governing the expropriation", je ne vois pas d'autre sujet qui pourrait "avoir recours à l'expropriation" (la traduction littérale).
Note from asker:
Merci Audrey, moi non plus je ne vois pas d'autre sujet...est-ce en effet les "principles governing..."? J'ai toujours un doute. Dans ce cas, la traduction serait: "Cependant, certains principes régissent l'expropriation des terres, ....., et peuvent entraîner l'expropriation en cas d’échec des négociations." ??
Peer comment(s):

agree mchd
40 mins
merci
agree Chakib Roula
3 hrs
disagree Daryo : "principles governing the expropriation" can not decide anything - someone in authority can + "to resort to" is not quite the same as " entraîner qq."
3 hrs
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3 hrs

et peut aboutir à ....

et peut se terminer par ...
Peer comment(s):

agree Chakib Roula
29 mins
merci
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5 hrs

on peut avoir recours à l'exp. / un recours à l'exp. est possible

Il manque effectivement un sujet ("one"?). Puisqu'on ne le connaît (même si, comme Daryo le propose, il ne peut s'agir que des pouvoirs publics), on peut rester ainsi dans le vague.
Peer comment(s):

agree GILLES MEUNIER
33 mins
disagree Daryo : there are no if or buts about expropriation (at least when it's done legally) - the sentence structure shows that a word is missing and there is only ONE option that makes any real life sense - no need to be vague
1 day 28 mins
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19 hrs

et l'expropriation d'office si les négociations échouent

La phrase est incomplète mais le sens assez clair. Un contrat d'achat est envisagé d'abord. On agira d'autorité (d'office) si la négociation n'aboutit pas.

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Note added at 19 hrs (2015-10-19 09:06:10 GMT)
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"Il y a toutefois des principes régissant l'expropriation de terrains, qui comprennent la négociation avec le titulaire des droits fonciers sujets à expropriation et l'expropriation d'office si les négociations échouent." ou encore:
"Il y a toutefois des principes régissant l'expropriation de terrains. Ils comprennent la négociation avec le titulaire des droits fonciers sujets à expropriation, et l'expropriation comme dernier recours, si toutes les négociations échouent."
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