Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Dutch term or phrase:
geboortebagage
English translation:
native equipment
Dutch term
geboortebagage
Iedereen heeft zijn eigen geboortebagage en dat bepaalt mede of je van een dubbeltje een kwartje wordt.
My client wants to know if there is a solid one-word translation for 'geboortebagage'. I am inclined to say there isn't and that a more descriptive translation is the best option here.
Thank you for your help!
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Proposed translations
native capacities/equipment
or native capacities
I like 'native equipment'
However, it's two words.
In this paper,I outline the characteristics or sensibilities of the Net Generation and examine some other views of the Net Generation.
I then consider the design of optimal conditions for learning by the Net Generation.
I argue that learners bring a range of natural, inherent, or native capacities to the learning environment but teachers are able to do little to enhance or develop these native capacities.
Learners also bring a range of previously learned capacities.
They bring a range of attitudes, proclivities, and sensibilities that teachers can encourage or discourage, enhance or diminish, or enliven or deaden.
http://www.academia.edu/4647761/Educating_the_Net_Generation...
"The truth is that all of us attain the greatest success and happiness possible in this life whenever we use our native capacities to their greatest extent."
-- Smiley Blanton
http://www.quoteworld.org/quotes/1550
NATIVE EQUIPMENT OF MAN
.... and (2) the bodily state of prepared-ness for that reaction. It is clear also that native equip-ment provides for the internal preparation as well as for the overt reaction.
Besides sensations, emotions, and reactions, native equipment also includes aptitudes or 'gifts' for certain activities, or for dealing with certain classes of things.
We recognize this type of native aptitude when we speak of one person as having a natural gift for music, another for mathematics, another for mechanics, another for salesmanship. No doubt many such aptitudes are complex and demand analysis at the hands of the psychologist;
We find resemblances between members of a family in ability to perform tests of an unusual sort, but calling for specific abilities; and, all in all, we cannot escape the conclusion that aptitudes are hereditary and form part of the native equipment. They are often designated as 'native capacities'.
http://archive.org/stream/DynamicPsychology/TXT/0000 - 0066....
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Our native equipment has been called by various names. The most common terms used are reflexes, instincts, impulses, inborn capacities, original nature, unlearned tendencies, and unlearned reactions. We prefer to use the term "native equipment" for all responses or possibilities of responses made by the human being that are not acquired by him. This equipment is possible because of an inherited form of nervous organization. Every human being comes into the world with certain neural patterns which enable him to act in rather definite ways. He inherits these patterns from the race, through his immediate ancestors. From our parents we inherit, directly or indirectly, color of eyes, shape of nose, texture of skin, color of hair, and perhaps height and other physical characteristics. Besides these physical characteristics we inherit tendencies toward certain mental traits and capacities, such as abilities in the languages, mathematics, or art, mechanical and musical abilities, or perhaps desires and emotional reactions. There is some evidence that our tempers, moods, or vivaciousness also may be inherited. The nature of unlearned responses, the universality of native equipment, reflexes, capacity to learn, modifiability of man's native equipment, maturation, special unlearned tendencies, gregariousness, play, and their importance to education are considered.
http://psycnet.apa.org/books/13416/004
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Michael Beijer
: I like 'native capacities'. Maybe also 'inborn capacities'. I think 'native equipment' is less good.
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Thank you, Michael. My idea is 'geboortebagage' is 'geboorte- + bagage' = 'native + equipment (being equipped with)' . 'native equipment' is more comprehensive than 'native capacities', it's all native/inborn functions. Also see references.
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freekfluweel
: ... en als de context Indianen betreft... ;-)
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Slaat echt nergens op, Freek. De context laat geen er geen enkel misverstand over bestaan wat hier met 'native' wordt bedoeld en ik zou zeggen lees de referenties. 'native' heeft meer dan 1 betekenis.
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social background
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freekfluweel
: Slaat niet alleen op sociale omgeving maar ook op aangeboren persoonlijke talenten...
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Ja daar heb je inderdaad wel gelijk in
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Michael Beijer
: agree with Freek
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ja, ik ook inmiddels
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emotional baggage, behaviour patterns, belief systems
(some people are) born with certain talents
Maybe something like: 'some people are born with certain talents'.
This would be one way of translating it.
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Oops, I meant to provide two different Example sentences. Here is the second one:
'However, some people believe that only children born with certain talents can succeed to become an artist or a good sports person.'
It is generally believed that some people are born with certain talents, for instance for sport or music, and others are not.
It is generally believed that some people are born with certain talents, for instance for sport or music, and others are not.
personal heritage
Two words, but it is concise.
Heritage can be many things, see:
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/heritage
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Michael Beijer
: Not so sure about this, in this context. See e.g. http://interactions.acm.org/archive/view/may-june-2013/there...
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innateness
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/innate
http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/innatene...
inborn capacities
About Barend's second suggestion, 'native equipment', I'd say that although I have seen it used here and there it does strike me as perhaps a little peculiar, and maybe something that might only be used in a – somewhat dated – psychology context.
The functions that have primary autonomy include intellectual ability, perception, and motor activity (motility), as well as inborn capacities that facilitate the acquisition of language and make it possible to plan and initiate goal-directed behavior.
According to Rogers, the primary goal of life is to (...) fulfill one's inborn capacities and potentialities.
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Barend van Zadelhoff
: Als je even door zoekt vind je genoeg recente voorbeelden (1 voorbeeld: http://edge.org/response-detail/11017). En waarom ook niet, het is alles wat je met je geboorte hebt meegekregen/alles waarmee je bij je geboorte bent toegerust.
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Hmm.
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Tina Vonhof (X)
: By far the best option in my opinion.
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Thanks, Tina!
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Discussion
Jean Houston, Ph.D.
See CV:
http://www.jeanhouston.com/Jean-Houston/
At your core you already know this to be so. Surely, there are times in your life when you understand yourself to be a reality surfer, delightedly riding the waves of creation, mind opened, heart expanded, the Universe coursing through you. In such states, you are embraced in co-conscious awareness, no longer knowing or caring where “I” leave off and the rest of reality begins, or whether there is any difference. This experience is one of the supreme givens of our nature because the Universe in its operational mode is coded into every one of us. The raptures of the deep self are our native equipment, granted us by our cosmic origins. The only requirement is joy and a willingness to say “yes” to the new epic that dawns, right now, in you and me and those fortunate to be alive in the great today. We are seeds coded with cosmic dreams. Bursting the pods of our containment, we are ready to enter into creative partnership with the Universe and to populate our particular corner of space-time with our unique vision and capacity.
http://www.awaken.com/2012/11/spirituality-in-jump-time/
Verder een argument als 'omdat er van het een meer is dan het ander is het een juist' is ongeldig.
Je moet naar de inhoud kijken.
Zoals ik al heb gezegd, ik vind 'equipment' heel goed bij 'bagage' passen.
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1) The Religious Factor in Native Equipment
2) In psychology and epistemology: refers to the data of the mind which owe their origin to the outside world of human experience. Such data are acquired by the mind and do not belong to the mind's native equipment (a priori)
3) Similarly, psychologist-philosopher Arthur Koestler devotes his work The Ghost in the Machine to the thesis that “man’s native equipment ... contains some builtin error or deficiency which predisposes him towards self-distruction”
3) Nativism: the basic conception of reality is not derived from senses: some ideas constitute our native equipment for understanding the world, which we bring to bear on our experience of it.
https://www.google.com/search?espv=210&es_sm=93&q="inborn ca... (Google search for "inborn capacities"; About 492 results)
https://www.google.com/search?q="native equipment" site:uk&o... (Google search for "native equipment"; About 209 results)
I think native/inborn capacities is a lot more common and probably a safer bet.
http://www.ask.com/question/definition-of-cultural-baggage
In het kind zelf ligt vanaf de conceptie een opdracht besloten: 'groot groeien en ontwikkelen'. Het kind heeft bij zijn geboorte 'bagage' bij zich die hem in staat stelt zich op unieke wijze te ontwikkelen. Bouwstenen van zijn persoonlijkheid, zoals karakter, temperament, motivatie, vitaliteit, introversie of extraversie, gemakkelijk zijn of juist wat moeilijker.' (http://www.autismeinfocentrum.nl/fetch_html_cat.html?mnu=tma... )
Ik had aan die zin toe moeten voegen, dat een nagenoeg gelijke ervaring voor de een geheel andere wijzen van reageren met zich meebrengt dan voor de ander. De ''geboortebagage'' is hier mede bepalend in.
Ik besef goed, dat ik hier een aanname doe. Willen wij hierover zekerheid, dan moeten wij een lastige en voor mij onethische proef doen. Babies moeten direct na hun geboorte zeker 10 jaar geisoleerd worden in exact gelijke ruimtes, exact gelijk worden gevoed en alle andere omstandigheden moeten ook exact gelijk zijn. Indien al die babies na 10 jaar op alles exact gelijk reageren, is aannemelijk gemaakt, dat de ''geboortebagage'' voor een ieder gelijk is en dat talentontwikkeling uitsluitend een zaak is van gericht en gedisciplineerd doorzetten.'
(www.managersonline.nl: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Sy1_667... )
Dualiteitsdenken is voor ons volwassenen zó normaal dat we niet in de gaten hebben dat dualiteitsdenken een aangeleerd circuskunstje is. Dat circuskunstje hoort niet bij onze geboortebagage.
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Dualiteitendenkers leven niet meer volgens hun geboortebagage.
Het onderwijs:
Na een paar jaartjes mogen kinderen naar school. Wat gebeurt daar?
Wordt het kind door de invloed van het onderwijs bij zijn geboortebagage gehouden?' (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&c... )