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Kay Barbara
Kay Barbara
Vereinigtes Königreich
Local time: 15:05
Mitglied (2008)
Englisch > Deutsch
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Claudia made a great point, abolish Kudoz-Brownies! Feb 22, 2010

Claudia Alvis wrote:

You have to remember that KudoZ is not a competition and it should not be a democratic process. This is, in my opinion, why the KudoZ system is so flawed. A person that's proposed an answer has more authority to express his/her opinion about an alternative answer, either because of experience, research, etc. Many people (of course not all) that do agree/disagree/vote neutral don't really take too much time to read the whole question or to consider all alternatives; many just want their browniz and vote even if they don't have a clue.



It would be the downfall of most subject fields (especially the less frequented ones) if answerers could not disagree with others. Most of the time, askers do need help in establishing which translation really is suitable/helpful; otherwise they would not ask questions. I am happy to disagree with answers which I deem wrong, no matter if I have provided an answer or not. There definitely is a shortage of specialist translators contributing to kudoz in my field, so why force them to decide to either answer or make a peer comment? If this suggestion were to be implemented, it would not be for the good of kudoz and the kudoz glossary.

There are far to many "translators" (for want of a better word) around who venture outside their specialty field(s) (that is, if they have any at all) and propose answers straight from dictionaries or google searches with ludicrous confidence levels. I am having none of this and if I think an answer is rubbish, I will disagree with it.

A weighted peer commenting feature according to specialties comes to mind (discussed elsewhere)... but only briefly since anyone can claim any specialty, so it would not be a great help...
 
itla
itla  Identity Verified
Local time: 15:05
Deutsch > Englisch
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Response to Claudia's Post Feb 22, 2010

Mostly, I hang out in the German to English section, and at times, it has been very frustrating to see askers pick blatantly wrong answers and then create glossary entries that could turn out to be self-propagating. Claudia Alvis' observation that too many answerers (and agreers) do not read the context is right on the mark. And I also agree with Kay Barbara that Brownies should be abolished, especially for agreers who don't provide extra evidence to support a given answer. Like all crowdsourcin... See more
Mostly, I hang out in the German to English section, and at times, it has been very frustrating to see askers pick blatantly wrong answers and then create glossary entries that could turn out to be self-propagating. Claudia Alvis' observation that too many answerers (and agreers) do not read the context is right on the mark. And I also agree with Kay Barbara that Brownies should be abolished, especially for agreers who don't provide extra evidence to support a given answer. Like all crowdsourcing ventures (linguee, dict, leo, etc.), proz is in danger of becoming irrelevant to professional translators. And that would be a shame. ▲ Collapse
 
Brian Young
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Vereinigte Staaten
Local time: 06:05
Dänisch > Englisch
Googled source pavement Feb 23, 2010

By which I mean, the posted "answers" that are backed up with sometimes a dozen links to various websites. I suppose it is great with some context, and references, but I have seen many wrong and even outrageous "answers" backed up with numerous web references. You can find ANYTHING on the web, including hatchet jobs on a language, and outrageously incorrect translations. I don't mind weighing in with an answer, but if I felt that I first had to find ten references on Google, then I would also f... See more
By which I mean, the posted "answers" that are backed up with sometimes a dozen links to various websites. I suppose it is great with some context, and references, but I have seen many wrong and even outrageous "answers" backed up with numerous web references. You can find ANYTHING on the web, including hatchet jobs on a language, and outrageously incorrect translations. I don't mind weighing in with an answer, but if I felt that I first had to find ten references on Google, then I would also feel that I was not qualified for that particular question. ▲ Collapse
 
Yaotl Altan
Yaotl Altan  Identity Verified
Mexiko
Local time: 08:05
Mitglied (2006)
Englisch > Spanisch
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Split Feb 23, 2010

I propose to split points in the Kudoz when there are more than one good answer.
 
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