Editing source doc / preventing loss of notes Initiator des Themas: Thijs Vissia
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I am working on translating a source text where I occasionally have to make a small edit in the .docx source document (the text is extracted from a pdf, so there are extra spaces, hyphenation marks that break up a word, etc.). I have noticed that making an edit in one part of the text, ends up in OmegaT with the loss of translation segments, sometimes seemingly in other places than my edits. This might have to do with formatting tags, I'm not exactly sure yet.
Either way, I would li... See more I am working on translating a source text where I occasionally have to make a small edit in the .docx source document (the text is extracted from a pdf, so there are extra spaces, hyphenation marks that break up a word, etc.). I have noticed that making an edit in one part of the text, ends up in OmegaT with the loss of translation segments, sometimes seemingly in other places than my edits. This might have to do with formatting tags, I'm not exactly sure yet.
Either way, I would like it if this didn't happen, because even if I can get back my latest translation using fuzzy matches, and will notice that it has been gone and been replaced (thanks to the prefix), i DO lose my notes associated with the segment.
At this point (the start of a book translation), my notes are more valuable to me than any current, unfinished translation in the translation segment.
I've tried to search the project folder for phrases that I know were in the notes, but it appears that the notes are not retained somewhere. They get deleted when the link between a source segment and a translation is broken by the edits made to the source doc.
What settings would I need to use to prevent this loss of notes?
Any other approaches to this problem?
All help appreciated! ▲ Collapse | | | esperantisto Local time: 16:57 Mitglied (2006) Englisch > Russisch + ... SITE LOCALIZER Search the project | Apr 16, 2020 |
All segments are retained in project_save.tmx with their respective notes. If you change a source file, some segments may become orphans (which you experience). You can find your notes either by opening project_save.tmx in a text editor and finding a relevant orphan segment or searching in project notes from within OmegaT (search a string that either [partially] matches the source text of the orphan segment or the text of the note).
There is no way to avoid such things except for ca... See more All segments are retained in project_save.tmx with their respective notes. If you change a source file, some segments may become orphans (which you experience). You can find your notes either by opening project_save.tmx in a text editor and finding a relevant orphan segment or searching in project notes from within OmegaT (search a string that either [partially] matches the source text of the orphan segment or the text of the note).
There is no way to avoid such things except for carefully preparing source documents before your start translation. Neither OmegaT, no other program in the world will do it for you. ▲ Collapse | | | "Tagwipe" the DOCX before translation | Apr 16, 2020 |
esperantisto wrote:
...preparing source documents before your start translation.
http://www.condak.cz/nove/2020-04/15/cs/04.html
04 Skript TagWipe na DOCX v OmegaT
The script Tagwipe "wipes" redundant tags. Edited DOCX remains in subfolder \source\ and backup of original file is in subfolder \tagwipe\.
Milan | | | cheers for your answers | Apr 16, 2020 |
Thank you Milan. I am already using Tagwipe before I continue translating (after editing the source doc).
I think Esperantist is probably right, and the source doc should be finalized beforehand. Too bad for me I guess!
As a backup measure, I can use the Write Notes script to save versions of the notes that I have, but it's still easy not to notice if one goes missing. So not really a solution that gives peace of mind without checking different documents and versions.... See more Thank you Milan. I am already using Tagwipe before I continue translating (after editing the source doc).
I think Esperantist is probably right, and the source doc should be finalized beforehand. Too bad for me I guess!
As a backup measure, I can use the Write Notes script to save versions of the notes that I have, but it's still easy not to notice if one goes missing. So not really a solution that gives peace of mind without checking different documents and versions.
It's probably for the best to just finalize and clean up the source doc, and only incidentally fix an isolated issue. ▲ Collapse | | | Dieses Forum wird von keinem Moderator betreut. Um Verstöße gegen die ProZ.com-Regeln zu melden oder um Hilfe zu erhalten, wenden Sie sich bitte an unsere ProZ.com-Mitarbeiter » Editing source doc / preventing loss of notes Trados Studio 2022 Freelance | The leading translation software used by over 270,000 translators.
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