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Glossary entry

Deutsch term or phrase:

Spalier stehen

Englisch translation:

form a tunnel

Added to glossary by nino0523 (X)
Sep 29, 2016 19:51
7 yrs ago
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Deutsch term

Spalier stehen

Deutsch > Englisch Sonstige Idiome/Maximen/Sprichwörter Wedding
Wie sagt man "Spalier stehen" auf Englisch? Also der Brauch, dass nach der Hochzeit die Gäste gegenüberstehend eine Art Gang bilden, den das Brautpaar durchlaufen muss. Vielen Dank!
Proposed translations (Englisch)
4 +3 form a tunnel
3 +5 form a guard of honour
3 form a passageway
3 form a lane
References
More refs in support of Armorel's answer
Spalier stehen

Discussion

Patrick Hubenthal Sep 30, 2016:
Despite writeaway's assertion below that there is no AE/BE difference, I notice that opinions do seem to be falling that way in this discussion, with Michael, jccantrell, and myself all getting a military vibe from "guard of honor" that doesn't seem to be (as) present for the Brits.

I also wonder whether this is a case of usages changing in a living language. There’s an interesting discussion at http://www.youandyourwedding.co.uk/forum/general-chat/what-d... – it begins with “You know at the end of the evening when you can walk through a tunnel created by your guests by forming two lines facing each other & raising arms/linking hands … what is this called?” and then further down the thread someone says “i think it's called a guard of honour or something??”

That suggests to me that “guard of honor” is establishing itself outside the military context, as Armorel and Alison say. But it also suggests that that process is still unfolding, and that “guard of honor” is not (yet) an established all-purpose term in the way that “Spalier stehen” is.
Axel Dittmer Sep 30, 2016:
Martha knows.
I guess receiving line is not the line up of the guests, but rather bride & groom & parents forming a line.
'The shortest receiving line comprises, in this order, the bride's mother -- who is historically the hostess, and therefore stands at the head -- the groom's mother, the bride, and the groom.'
http://www.marthastewartweddings.com/226683/greeting-your-we...
Armorel Young Sep 30, 2016:
That picture in your link isn't a receiving line. The text in your link says "A receiving line is the best opportunity to greet each guest individually and thank him or her for coming to your wedding. ... The line also guarantees your guests a minute of face-to-face time with you, a chance to hug, kiss, and congratulate you both, and to say things like "The ceremony was lovely." - The picture doesn't illustrate that, since the couple aren't stopping to talk to each guest individually, which is the whole point of a receiving line.
Axel Dittmer Sep 30, 2016:
Hm, not sure. I think you can have a receiving line before and after the ceremony.
Look at the picture of my first link. That's outside the church, after the ceremony.
(I should get married more often)
On the other hand, I had no idea it is called 'Spalier stehen' at weddings in German. I thought that is a military term.
Armorel Young Sep 30, 2016:
A receiving line ... ... is different. That's at the reception, when everyone lines up and the newlyweds speak to / greet each person in turn - I think what is being described by the asker is the point when the couple are leaving the ceremony and simply walk through the assembled crowd (then everyone will move on to the reception, where the receiving line will be)
Axel Dittmer Sep 30, 2016:
'receiving line' gets lots of hits
Receiving Line Etiquette, Options and Tips
https://www.theknot.com/content/receiving-line-etiquette-opt...

'After the wedding ceremony, your guests will be eager to hug you and congratulate you. A receiving line is an efficient way for you and your parents to receive these good wishes and give a warm welcome to friends and family who have come to share this special day. '
http://www.brides.com/blogs/aisle-say/2014/07/wedding-receiv...
BrigitteHilgner Sep 30, 2016:
See https://books.google.de/books?id=kKm3EutAsVIC&pg=PA202&lpg=P...
Patrick Hubenthal Sep 30, 2016:
writeaway, 'tis true, I've heard "honor guard" in the US. It doesn't seem to be a purely AE thing, though – witness for example http://www.bathchronicle.co.uk/story-16755385-detail/story.h... , http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1371569 , etc. What can I say – people will never settle for a long phrase if it can possibly shortened :-)

Proposed translations

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form a tunnel

This is what I have heard in the USA.
Reference:

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/215046950930030277/

https://www.pinterest.com/tapestryh/fabulous-send-off-ideas/

Peer comment(s):
agree AllegroTrans : Yes, the guests line up and hold their hands up above the newlyweds, forming a tunnel; assuming this is not a military wedding with a uniformed guard of honour; asker needs to check
14 Stunden
agree Patrick Hubenthal : Of the three "form an X" answers submitted, this seems to be the most common.
18 Stunden
agree Johanna Timm, PhD : form a "wedding salute tunnel" https://goo.gl/wWiSnA
1 Tag 2 Stunden
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19 Min.

form a guard of honour


25 Apr 2016 - Players form a guard of honour for Jack on his wedding day ... PLAYERS at Cainscross RFC formed a guard of honour at the wedding of club ...
www.stroudnewsandjournal.co.uk/.../14448613.Stroud_nostalgi...


Chernobyl children play a part in wedding day celebrations of Kinver host. Children from Belarus form a guard of honour for happy couple Paul
www.stourbridgenews.co.uk/.../14657257.Chernobyl_children_p...
Peer comment(s):
neutral Patrick Hubenthal : Yes if it's military personnel getting married; not so much otherwise. (And "guard of honor" / "honor guard" if the translation is into American English.)
8 Min.
agree writeaway : honor guard is US English for guard of honor? that's news to me.......
1 Stunde
agree Lancashireman : Yes, the two links aren't working too well but can be found and do indeed have photos showing a guard of honour being formed.
2 Stunden
Indeed - I chose those references precisely because they indicate that the term isn't confined to military usage (although that is obviously where it originated)
agree Ramey Rieger (X) : I KNOW I've heard another term, but the past half hour of research has be fruitless. Maybe I'm imaginging things. you'r is certainly the best suggestion.
10 Stunden
agree Gudrun Wolfrath
14 Stunden
agree Alison MacG : Widely used in relation to weddings, even outside the original military/uniform context. I’ve posted more examples in reference section. (This has reminded me of when I was part of a Brownie guard of honour at the Tawny Owl’s wedding many years ago).
18 Stunden
neutral Michael Martin, MA : Works for this specific context unless Nino wants the normal meaning of “Spalier stehen” translated which is not context-bound. Then, I would have to disagree.//See added note
1 Tag 23 Stunden
I thought the whole rationale of Proz was to translate the term in the given context, so I don't quite understand your objection.
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19 Min.

form a passageway

I think "Spalier stehen" is a bit more involved than just standing in rows or lining the path – usually you also use your arms/hands to form a sort of arched roof over the newlyweds as well, right? If we have a word for that in English, I can't think of it at the moment, but "form a passageway" seems like a reasonable paraphrase.

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Note added at 23 hrs (2016-09-30 18:52:18 GMT)
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writeaway and AllegroTrans, good luck proving those negatives :-) On the side of "it does make sense" and "people do say it," we have for example:

“Just as traditional sparklers for weddings are used, these romantic heart sparklers can be used to form a passageway or a sparkling tunnel for the couple to pass through while exiting the venue.”
http://vipsparklers.com/product/wedding-products/heart-shape...

I’ve written a bit more in the discussion thread above as well.
Peer comment(s):
neutral Lancashireman : Passageway. tunnel, lane... How about thoroughfare, corridor, alley, couloir?
2 Stunden
Thanks, but I prefer to stick with things people actually say :-) Which was rather the point of my response to Armorel's answer – people at nonmilitary weddings don't call it a "guard of honor" in my experience. But maybe that's an AE/BE difference too?
neutral writeaway : no AE/BE difference here. agree with Lancashireman. this answer makes no sense at all (in Englis(c)h).
10 Stunden
neutral AllegroTrans : this is not what people actually say
16 Stunden
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16 Min.

form a lane

crowds form a lane..

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Note added at 9 hrs (2016-09-30 05:13:17 GMT)
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'Spalier stehen' is not at all limited to any particular context such as one involving honor guards. It simply means a crowd forms a lane for somebody to come through, whatever the occasion. Compare with example below:

"At his funeral in San Diego, more than three dozen fellow SEALs formed a lane for the pallbearers to walk down." http://blogs.cfr.org/lindsay/2013/05/24/twe-remembers-memori...

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Note added at 1 day23 hrs (2016-10-01 19:28:19 GMT)
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If you use a translation of 'Spalier stehen' that's specific to weddings or comparable rituals, make sure it's noted as such in the glossary. Otherwise, people will be barking up the wrong tree..

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Note added at 2 days1 hr (2016-10-01 21:14:03 GMT)
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Hi Armorel!
That’s correct. But the way the question is set up, it’s unclear whether or not asker knows ‘Spalier stehen’ is not always tied to weddings. With evocative verbs like that, it just seems more natural to focus on the physical meaning, rather than on the specifics of any particular context.
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Reference comments

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Reference:

More refs in support of Armorel's answer

Wedding Exit: How to make a Stylish Exit from your Ceremony or Reception
Wedding Exit Idea #3. Guard of Honour
If your venue doesn’t want to clean it up or you just don’t fancy picking tiny pieces of paper out of your hair, a simple guard of honour from friends and family that you newlyweds can run through is a nice touch.
http://smartgroom.com/stylish-wedding-exit/

Again the bride and grooms entrance for the first dance has been given detailed consideration and they can expect to enjoy a guard of honour from their friends and family down a dramatically lit cat walk to reach the dance floor…..
http://www.wedding-venue-ayrshire.co.uk/press-release/

Fellow team members created a guard of honour with ice axes outside the hotel, following the ceremony.
http://www.timesandstar.co.uk/news/people/Rescuer-Chris-weds...

For the exit of the Bride and Groom from their Muncaster Castle Wedding in December, all of the guests lined up outside with a sparkler guard of honour for the beautiful couple to exit through.
http://www.stuartjamesphoto.co.uk/black-white-wedding-photog...
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23 Stunden
Reference:

Spalier stehen

Spalierstehen

Die Hochzeitsgesellschaft stellt sich nach der standesamtlichen oder kirchlichen Trauung in zwei Reihen auf und bildet mit den Händen einen Tunnel, den das Brautpaar durchschreiten muss. Der Gang symbolisiert den ersten gemeinsamen Weg in die richtige Richtung. Dadurch dass das Brautpaar sich einen Weg durch den meist sehr engen Tunnel bahnt, beweist es auch, dass Schwierigkeiten und Hindernisse in Zukunft gemeinsam überwunden werden. Für die Gäste ist das Spalierstehen auch eine Form, dem Brautpaar die Ehre zu erweisen.
Reference:

//http://www.merkur.de/welt/hochzeitsbraeuche-ihre-bedeutung-merkur-1047516.html

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