Glossary entry

Deutsch term or phrase:

Ohne Ansatz

Englisch translation:

unbudgeted (for service charges)

Added to glossary by Adrian MM. (X)
Feb 13, 2015 21:19
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Deutsch term

Ohne Ansatz

Deutsch > Englisch Rechts- und Patentwesen Recht: Verträge Lease Agreement
While "Ansatz" already has many glossary entries, I'm not 100% if any actually apply to this context, and I have absolutely NO idea as to what it might mean in this context. I haven't found any German sites that might shed light on the meaning. It is part of a list that specifies the areas to be leased in a commercial lease agreement. There is no mention of price/rate in this part of the agreement. This word is not used anywhere else in the contract. Can someone please enlighten me as to what it might mean?

Verkaufsraum (EG) mit einer Fläche vonca. ................ m²
Lagerräume (EG, Keller) mit einer Fläche vonca. ................ m²
Nebenräume (EG, Keller) mit einer Fläche vonca. ................ m²
Technikraum (EG, Keller), ohne Ansatz (ca................. m²)
Fläche zur Aufstellung von Technik,ohne Ansatz (ca. ................ m²)
Stellfläche für Motorroller ohne Ansatz (ca................. m²)
Anlieferungszone, ohne Ansatz (ca................. m²)
Müllbereich/Müllraum, ohne Ansatz (ca................. m²
Fassadenfläche zur Abluftführung (Alternativ Plasmanorm),ohne Ansatz(ca................. m²
Gesamt ca. ................ m²
Change log

Feb 15, 2015 19:07: Adrian MM. (X) Created KOG entry

Feb 15, 2015 19:08: Adrian MM. (X) changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/95262">Adrian MM. (X)'s</a> old entry - "Ohne Ansatz"" to ""no budget allocation (of payment on a/c of service charges)""

Discussion

Hans-Jochen Trost Feb 13, 2015:
I think this may mean that a pricing per unit area will not count those that are marked "ohne Ansatz". Here are examples where "ohne Ansatz" is used that way:
http://www.azv-pfattertal.de/faq.html
http://www.viernheim.de/index.php?id=2565&type=98
http://www.mietflaechenermittlung.de/mf_wohnen.htm
A translation might be "without charge" or "not counted"; however, I am not familiar with any possibly established applicable technical terms or language.

Proposed translations

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Deutsch term (edited): Ohne Ansatz (von Vorauszahlung)
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no budget allocation (of payment on a/c of service charges)

Note the clue: the term is always followed by brackets in the quote.

Doesn't matter that no price or rate is mentioned in that part of the Lease, since no value is assigned.
Peer comment(s):

agree Linguaphil : this sounds logical ...
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Merci vielmals! It does look like an accounting term, whilst 'unestimated' would be incongruous with the measurements that follow.
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without ancillary spaces

Little more than a guess, I'm afraid.
I'm thinking of the 23rd meaning of "ansetzen" in my source: anlehnen. This would ´mean that the "Fläche" in question has been measured without the slopes leaning up to it or the structures supporting it, etc.
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Reference comments

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Reference:

entry, access area

entry can also mean Ansatz, it seems ... maybe this helps, even though I have never heard it used that way in my entire German life before ...
Peer comments on this reference comment:

neutral philgoddard : I think this is a possibility.
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Reference:

Ansatz

Peer comments on this reference comment:

agree Linguaphil : this, too, makes sense ...
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