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| Herta Müller... | Oct 8, 2009 |
...does look a bit like Umberto Eco. Did the jury mix up the pictures? They surely wanted to choose Eco...
| | | | | I must be honest... never heard of Herta | Oct 8, 2009 |
But from what it is said she has my admiration and respect. Living in a fascist regime (I don't care of it advertises itself as a people's regime or whatever) and making a stand against it takes a lot of courage.
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Well,I must confess my ignorance. No idea at all.
| | | | Vito Smolej
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SITE LOCALIZER | she was mentioned | Oct 8, 2009 |
today on my car radio as a candidate...
The decision will help Germans get rid of the holy fear and respect of the Nobel prize jury. If any left that is, after the jury kept shooting itself in the foot with decisions like Naipaul (2001), Jelinek(2004) and Lessing (2007), all in the grand old-time tradition of a institution who decided for Winston Churchill in 1953 and Bertrand Russel few years earlier.
There's a positive side to the story: after Gao Xingjian (2000) C... See more today on my car radio as a candidate...
The decision will help Germans get rid of the holy fear and respect of the Nobel prize jury. If any left that is, after the jury kept shooting itself in the foot with decisions like Naipaul (2001), Jelinek(2004) and Lessing (2007), all in the grand old-time tradition of a institution who decided for Winston Churchill in 1953 and Bertrand Russel few years earlier.
There's a positive side to the story: after Gao Xingjian (2000) Chinese self-respect (and hopefully their respect for their literature) must have increased dramatically: h*ll, if they thought so well about Gao Xingjian, our real literature must be absolute tops.
Anyhow, anybody interested in German literature, see
http://www.deutscher-buchpreis.de/de/296796
Regards
Vito
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Helen Shiner
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So that'll be Eco then?! I am worried about agreeing with you too prominently in case you fall off your computer with excitement ...! I too haven't heard of Herta but will be interested to read more.
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| | | | Heinrich Pesch
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| Alt + (keyboard) 129 | Oct 8, 2009 |
If you want to write Müller, just press Alt and 129 on the keyboard.
Again they surprised me, first Jelinek, now Müller. Didn't know that German literature is so good. I should start to read more German books. Müller's books have been translated into Finnish even. So she must be good.
Herzlichen Glückwunsch, Frau Müller!
Regards
Heinrich
| | | | Boris Rogowski
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Pynchon clearly deserves the Nobel Prize, in fact he probably should have been awarded it a long long time ago... I can't see how someone who wrote Gravity's Rainbow had to wait that long anyway. IMO this shows that brilliant literature is by far not the only criterion.
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I have to admit that I'm a bit disappointed, I'd never hear of Herta Müller. But I hadn't heard of Le Clézio or Lessing either. The last Nobel I had read before he got the prize was Orhan Pamuk. But I'm glad a fellow (once) translator received the Nobel.
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| Also don't know Herta Müller / About some of the Spanish language nominees | Oct 8, 2009 |
Just wanted to add that I also have not read any of Herta Müller's books, nor am I familiar with her writing in general, but I will see how soon I can get a Spanish and/or English translation of any of them.
About some of the Spanish language nominees some of us mentioned, like Mario Vargas Llosa and Carlos Fuentes, I get the impression that the NP Academy is definitely not interested in at least these two names, because since they basically belong to the same generation as García... See more Just wanted to add that I also have not read any of Herta Müller's books, nor am I familiar with her writing in general, but I will see how soon I can get a Spanish and/or English translation of any of them.
About some of the Spanish language nominees some of us mentioned, like Mario Vargas Llosa and Carlos Fuentes, I get the impression that the NP Academy is definitely not interested in at least these two names, because since they basically belong to the same generation as García Márquez, maybe the Academy feels that the said generation already got a representative awarded. Of course, you never know, but, again, it would be nice to know at least who the real nominees are.
I'm also glad that Ms. Müller has also worked as a translator, though I wonder how she feels about this profession and if she is actually up-to-date about it.
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| | | | Heinrich Pesch
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| She seems to respect her translators very much | Oct 8, 2009 |
ICL wrote:
I'm also glad that Ms. Müller has also worked as a translator, though I wonder how she feels about this profession and if she is actually up-to-date about it.
[Edited at 2009-10-08 16:01 GMT]
At least when I look at the list of translations into English the translator is mentioned as co-author:
The Land of Green Plums by Herta Muller and Michael Hofmann
But I find only one translation of Müller at Amazon.com.
| | | | | Article about one of her USA translators | Oct 9, 2009 |
I just got the following article link through Twitter, so I thought of sharing it. It's about a USA translator/co-translator of some of her writings, Philip Boehm:
www.stltoday.com/blogzone/book-blog/book-blog/2009/10/st-louisan-a-translator-for-new-nobel-laureate/
Of Müller, he says: “Her prose is very evocative and puts us in the mind of the character. It evokes both the psychology of the character and the environment of oppression in which the character lives.”
And notice that it seems he works as a literary translator actually only part-time, as he works mostly as the artistic director of a theatre.
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| Cortazar is a town.. | Oct 9, 2009 |
If any German reader thinks Thomas Mann, H. Böll and Herta Müller at the same scale, okey then, i won't criticize. Not for Müller, but nearly non of the winner in last years, ever come close these (not only them, of course) great men, in pure literature.
At school years I always heard names like Morrison, Gordimer, Paz...
Now Jelinek, Le Clezio, Lessing...
From now on Nobel should follow its way, never look back.
Atwood, Eco, Llosa, Fuentes, Kunder... See more If any German reader thinks Thomas Mann, H. Böll and Herta Müller at the same scale, okey then, i won't criticize. Not for Müller, but nearly non of the winner in last years, ever come close these (not only them, of course) great men, in pure literature.
At school years I always heard names like Morrison, Gordimer, Paz...
Now Jelinek, Le Clezio, Lessing...
From now on Nobel should follow its way, never look back.
Atwood, Eco, Llosa, Fuentes, Kundera, Rushdie, Roth... Better forget about prize.
Fuentes, for my opinion, deserves "nobel of the nobels -as if/sim.to booker-", let me go a bit further, from 2000+, non of the winners has any book that with literary value of "Christopher Unborn", and it is a medium level book, for Mr. Fuentes.
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Vito Smolej
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SITE LOCALIZER | The night is made of ink. Herta Müller speaks of her youth in Banat | Oct 9, 2009 |
an excerpt from the audio Book in
http://jetzt.sueddeutsche.de/texte/anzeigen/487593
For a while I thought of committing a suicide and attempted it several times. But I have not pulled it through. From that moment on I stopped trying and I forbid myself to do it - I had not done it before and later I no longer allowed it to myself, as the Secret Service has ... See more an excerpt from the audio Book in
http://jetzt.sueddeutsche.de/texte/anzeigen/487593
For a while I thought of committing a suicide and attempted it several times. But I have not pulled it through. From that moment on I stopped trying and I forbid myself to do it - I had not done it before and later I no longer allowed it to myself, as the Secret Service has been threatening all the time they would kill me. That they would, whatever, throw me into the river or as the saying goes: there's road accidents.
I would actually do the dirty work for them, by getting myself out of their way. (...) Such political things in a country under control - and then, if you become the target, it all flows into the most intimate, into the very, very personal. So even the possibility is not there any more, there's no more suicide. Free death after all means that you yourself decide about it and you do it because you voluntarily take a walk out of your life. . . That would not have been the case. I would just fulfill the killing mission that they would, when deciding to kill me, have to delegate to some third person. I would just turn into my murderer. There was nothing else there. I would become my own killer. I would do it on their behalf then, whether I liked it or not. There would be no other choice.
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