Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Englisch term or phrase:
by certificate
Deutsch translation:
mit Aufgebot
Added to glossary by
Vesna Zivcic
Nov 6, 2002 11:52
21 yrs ago
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Englisch term
by certificate
Englisch > Deutsch
Rechts- und Patentwesen
Urkunden, Diplome, Zeugnisse, Lebensläufe
marriage certificate
Aus einer britischen Heiratsurkunde:
Married in the Register Office
by Certificate
Wie ist hier der Ausdruck "by certificate" zu verstehen?
Married in the Register Office
by Certificate
Wie ist hier der Ausdruck "by certificate" zu verstehen?
Proposed translations
(Deutsch)
2 +1 | Sorry, Vesna - I'm probably adding to the confusion ... | TonyTK |
5 +6 | laut Urkundenrolle (UR) | Steffen Pollex (X) |
Proposed translations
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Sorry, Vesna - I'm probably adding to the confusion ...
All this stuff is explained at: (I'll add the URL in a sec.)
"The last part of the line under the main entry reads "by...................after or by me.
Filling the gap you might find
by certificate
by licence
after banns
by common licence
by special licence
by Registrar Generals licence
by registrar's certificate
'By certificate' would be found on a marriage entry in a register office marriage register or in a non-conformist marriage register. It shows that the couple waited 3 weeks between giving notice and getting married.
'By licence' would be found in the same set of registers and would indicate that the couple may have married with less than three weeks between giving the notice and getting married (minimum of 1 clear working day). However - a licence lasts three months so the marriage wasn't necessarily done in a rush. It may have been easier to give only the one licence notice rather than the two that would have been needed for a marriage by certificate if the bride and groom lived in different districts.
'After banns' can only be found in ..."
etc. etc.
God knows how to translate it though. Maybe it's easier to go with Steffen's answer.
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Note added at 2002-11-06 15:33:47 (GMT)
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http://www.dixons.clara.co.uk/Certificates/marriages.htm
AFAIK you can\'t get married \"by licence\" nowadays (but I\'m not even sure about that).
"The last part of the line under the main entry reads "by...................after or by me.
Filling the gap you might find
by certificate
by licence
after banns
by common licence
by special licence
by Registrar Generals licence
by registrar's certificate
'By certificate' would be found on a marriage entry in a register office marriage register or in a non-conformist marriage register. It shows that the couple waited 3 weeks between giving notice and getting married.
'By licence' would be found in the same set of registers and would indicate that the couple may have married with less than three weeks between giving the notice and getting married (minimum of 1 clear working day). However - a licence lasts three months so the marriage wasn't necessarily done in a rush. It may have been easier to give only the one licence notice rather than the two that would have been needed for a marriage by certificate if the bride and groom lived in different districts.
'After banns' can only be found in ..."
etc. etc.
God knows how to translate it though. Maybe it's easier to go with Steffen's answer.
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Note added at 2002-11-06 15:33:47 (GMT)
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http://www.dixons.clara.co.uk/Certificates/marriages.htm
AFAIK you can\'t get married \"by licence\" nowadays (but I\'m not even sure about that).
Peer comment(s):
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Beate Lutzebaeck
: Hey - pretty impressive. "By certificate" would then be translated as "mit Aufgebot" => Eheschließung unter Bestellung des Aufgebots
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Yes - something along those lines
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks for the explanation and a very useful link!"
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laut Urkundenrolle (UR)
Wenn das "certificate" (also auf deutsch die "Urkunde") selbst vorliegt und einen Hinweis auf ein weiteres "certificate" enthält, kann das m.E. im Deutschen nur die "Urkundenrolle" sein, also ein Register, in das deutsche Notare alle von ihnen ausgefertigten Urkunden chronologisch eintragen.
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Giusi Pasi
25 Min.
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agree |
Uta Muller
32 Min.
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agree |
Pro Lingua
51 Min.
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agree |
Steffen Walter
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agree |
rapid
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neutral |
TonyTK
: Sounds logical - but see below
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agree |
Monika Ellis (X)
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neutral |
Beate Lutzebaeck
: Afaik werden Urkundenrollen nur von Notaren geführt, nicht von Standesämtern. Tonys Erklärung überzeugt mich.
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Discussion
Der Vordruck dieser Heiratsurkunde kann auf
http://harmsy.freeuk.com/family.tree/certseliaswoodhouse1887...
gesehen werden. Obwohl die sich bei mir befindliche Urkunde aus 1998 stammt, es scheint, dass sich jahrhundertelang nichts wesentliches daran ver�ndert hat.