Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Deutsch term or phrase:
Die bisherige Namensführung wurde unter Umständen nicht überprüft
Englisch translation:
verification of identity based on the previous name may not have been performed
Added to glossary by
Charles Stanford
Jan 20, 2009 20:47
15 yrs ago
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Deutsch term
Tschechische Republik
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Native in: Englisch 
Works in: Tschechisch > Englisch, Slowakisch > Englisch, Deutsch > Englisch, and 3 more.
Die bisherige Namensführung wurde unter Umständen nicht überprüft
Deutsch > Englisch
Rechts- und Patentwesen
Urkunden, Diplome, Zeugnisse, Lebensläufe
Change of surname certificate
I think I may be being a bit dopey about this but please can someone explain the sense of the above. It appears in a certificate on a change of surname, in which the husband for some reason is taking on the wife's surname. I found it translated on Leo as " The previous use of name has not been checked under circumstances" which makes no sense to my mind. Thank you for any help
Proposed translations
(Englisch)
| 3 +9 | verification of identity based on the previous name may not have been performed |
Johanna Timm, PhD
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| 4 +1 | The previous name was not necessarily checked. |
Alfredo Vargas
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Change log
Jan 21, 2009 08:54: Steffen Walter changed "Field" from "Sonstige" to "Rechts- und Patentwesen"
Proposed translations
+9
1 Stunde
Johanna Timm, PhD
Kanada
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Kanada
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Native in: Deutsch (Variants: Swiss, Platt / Nieder (Low German), Austrian, Germany)
Works in: Englisch > Deutsch, Deutsch > Englisch, Deutsch
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verification of identity based on the previous name may not have been performed
"Űberprűft" means- here- identity verification, which is usually performed by comparing a person’s name shown on one document with the name stated on another official document (often a photo ID) , driver’s licence or birth certificate.
In this particular case, such verification process may or may not have been performed, meaning the person applying for a new name may not have been asked to produce an official document showing his previous name.
„Zur Feststellung Ihrer Identität bringen Sie bitte Ihren alten (ggf. abgelaufenen) Personalausweis oder Reisepasss mit. Zur Überprüfung der Namensführung ist, sofern dies nicht bei Ihrer Anmeldung bereits geschehen ist, eine aktuelle Personenstandsurkunde vorzulegen.“
http://www.jena.de/sixcms/detail.php?id=33194&_nav_id1=11217...
In this particular case, such verification process may or may not have been performed, meaning the person applying for a new name may not have been asked to produce an official document showing his previous name.
„Zur Feststellung Ihrer Identität bringen Sie bitte Ihren alten (ggf. abgelaufenen) Personalausweis oder Reisepasss mit. Zur Überprüfung der Namensführung ist, sofern dies nicht bei Ihrer Anmeldung bereits geschehen ist, eine aktuelle Personenstandsurkunde vorzulegen.“
http://www.jena.de/sixcms/detail.php?id=33194&_nav_id1=11217...
Note from asker:
| That is brilliant - thank you Johamma. Of course... makes sense now |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
mill2
27 Min.
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| agree |
Ingeborg Gowans (X)
29 Min.
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| agree |
Melanie Wittwer
30 Min.
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| agree |
Inge Meinzer
44 Min.
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| agree |
Alfredo Vargas
: I agree with your rendition, mine was too literal and meant to be a first step towards a better English phrasing like yours.
1 Stunde
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| neutral |
gangels (X)
: way too stilted
2 Stunden
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well - I tried to match the original :-)
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| agree |
Emma Rault (X)
8 Stunden
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| agree |
Armorel Young
: not stilted at all; the tone is correct in being moderately formal
10 Stunden
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| agree |
Steffen Walter
: Strongly disagree with "gangels" - this is just the right register for this type of legal document.
11 Stunden
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| agree |
Derek Gill Franßen
18 Stunden
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks Johanna"
+1
22 Min.
Alfredo Vargas
Vereinigte Staaten
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Native in: Spanisch
Works in: Englisch > Spanisch, Spanisch > Englisch, Französisch > Englisch, and 4 more.
The previous name was not necessarily checked.
Name, family name or last name.
Verified or checked.
Unter Umständen = could possibly, may not have been (In this context).
It also means: Not necessarily
"The previous name was not necessarily checked"
Verified or checked.
Unter Umständen = could possibly, may not have been (In this context).
It also means: Not necessarily
"The previous name was not necessarily checked"
Note from asker:
| Thank you Alfredo - went for Johanna's in the end but yours was useful too |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
gangels (X)
: The previous name may have conceivably not been checked out (corroborated/verified). 'Unter Umständen' here is no more than 'possibly/conceivably'
3 Stunden
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