Nov 5, 2008 11:13
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Deutsch term

Winkelschreibereiverordnung

Deutsch > Englisch Rechts- und Patentwesen Recht (allgemein) Austrian Law
Austrian legal provision dated 8th June 1857
concerning *Winkelschreiber*. I have found come references to the latter in Google but no convincing translation into English ( *litigation friend* - sounds most odd.) -
Proposed translations (Englisch)
4 +2 McKenzie Friend Order
3 ambulance chasing [directive]

Discussion

John Wellesly Helliwell (asker) Nov 5, 2008:
WHAT ABOUT *(UNATHORISED) LAY ADVOCATE?* I have now come across the term *lay advocate*, which appeals to me for several reasons. It is not necessarily derogatory, it is not too colloqial for a formal, legal text, MW's definition is *someone who pleads a cause for another* and might fit in the context of it being illegal in certain circumstances by adding "unauthorised". The *Mckenzie friend* always seems to be used in connection with someone who is UNABLE to plead his/her own cause by reason of age or infirmity. Any comments on this would be welcome?
Ken Cox Nov 5, 2008:
FWIW A Winkelschreiber might be known in the US (informally) as a 'cracker-barrel lawyer', but I doubt that this term is in common use in the legal profession. Another obstacle is that Cracker Barrel is a company name, and the company employs lawyers (as shown by the google hits).
John Wellesly Helliwell (asker) Nov 5, 2008:
Clarification Seems to refer to people who, although not qualified lawyers, provide legal advice pr representation to other people.

Proposed translations

+2
1 Stunde

McKenzie Friend Order

Declined
I doubt you will like this, and I think it's not going to be well known.

The term 'litigation friend' would not be correct - it was introduced in England in the Civil Procedure Rules (1999?) to replace 'next friend' and 'guardian ad litem', which were representatives, for example, of children or other people who could not represent themselves. Your term refers to someone who helps a person who is not a minor.

(I quote my own weblog...)http://transblawg.eu/index.php?/archives/82-Mackenzie-friend...
Peer comment(s):

neutral writeaway : but it seems to be an offence under Austrian law
32 Min.
agree Adrian MM. (X) : Right definition by §1 WinkelschreiberV. relied upon by Tom Thumb's ancestors.
1 Stunde
agree Harald Moelzer (medical-translator)
1 Tag 5 Stunden
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4 Stunden

ambulance chasing [directive]

Declined
is called a practice (which by now has taken on the generic meaning of unprofessional conduct) in the US where lawyers try to recruit 'victims' for frivolous lawsuits, thus garnering legal fees (e.g., a small scratch or hangnail is blown up into a life-shattering event for which the victim deserves hefty compensation because he will be 'traumatized' for the rest of his life). But these unscrupulous lawyers are all admitted to the bar holding valid law degrees. In your case, they may be impostors masquerading as lawyers, but it's not really clear to me.
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Reference comments

11 Min.
Reference:

A hint about the meaning

Despite all this he almost became a public
prosecutor. But the press revealed a story in which his
name cropped up again, this time in connection with
criminal proceedings and the suspicion of having given
legal advice without due authorisation
(Winkelschreiberei)
http://ius-info.ius-software.si/EUII/EUCHR/dokumenti/1995/04...
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