Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Deutsch term or phrase:
fächerübergreifend vs. fächerverbindend
Englisch translation:
transdisciplinary vs. interdisciplinary
Added to glossary by
Elizabeth Kelly
Jan 29, 2011 11:05
14 yrs ago
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Deutsch term
Irland
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Native in: Deutsch 
Works in: Englisch > Deutsch, Polnisch > Deutsch, Polnisch > Englisch, and 1 more.
fächerübergreifend vs. fächerverbindend
Deutsch > Englisch
Geistes- und Sozialwissenschaften
Bildungswesen/Pädagogik
Secondary school curriculum
Bis heute hätte ich beide Begriffe als "interdisciplinary" übersetzt. Das Problem ist, dass sie hier durch ein "und" verbunden beide im gleichen Satz stehen. Ist das nicht doppelt-gemoppelt?
"In diesem Sinne ordnet sich der Englischunterricht in das Gesamtkonzept zum fächerübergreifenden und fächerverbindenden Lernen ein."
"In diesem Sinne ordnet sich der Englischunterricht in das Gesamtkonzept zum fächerübergreifenden und fächerverbindenden Lernen ein."
Proposed translations
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| 3 | transdisciplinary vs. interdisciplinary |
casper (X)
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| 3 +2 | inter- and multidisciplinary |
GET ENERGY (X)
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| 3 +2 | integrated vs. interdisciplinary |
Steffen Walter
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| 4 | trans- and inter-curricular |
Ramey Rieger (X)
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| 2 | cross-curricular and interdisciplinary |
Mech White
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Change log
Jan 29, 2011 11:13: Steffen Walter changed "Field" from "Sonstige" to "Geistes- und Sozialwissenschaften"
Proposed translations
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transdisciplinary vs. interdisciplinary
Transdisciplinary • Approaches that transcend boundaries of conventional disciplines.
Interdisciplinary • Process of combining two or more disciplines, fields of study or professions
http://shortify.com/11880
Interdisciplinary • Process of combining two or more disciplines, fields of study or professions
http://shortify.com/11880
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "I liked this option best, but thanks to all for your suggestions!"
13 Min.
Mech White
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Englisch
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cross-curricular and interdisciplinary
This might be a possibility, but I believe the two terms really are very similar.
See also:
http://www.linguee.de/deutsch-englisch/search?sourceoverride...
See also:
http://www.linguee.de/deutsch-englisch/search?sourceoverride...
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42 Min.
inter- and multidisciplinary
"inter- and multidisciplinary learning" (see source below)
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gangels (X)
: Most precise, better than the hackneyed 'integrated', so much beloved by Denglish experts
35 Min.
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Steffen Walter
: I'm not sure if there's even a difference between the two terms (I believe they largely overlap), and most of the search hits for this collocation are German./Ich hatte nach "inter- and multidisciplinary" + "learning" ohne Domain-Einschränkung gesucht.
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"inter- and multidisciplinary" site:uk = 3,590, site:de = 2,880 hits (?)
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mill2
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mary austria
: I can go with this answer or with Ramey's.
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Steffen Walter
Deutschland
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232
integrated vs. interdisciplinary
So könnte man den eventuellen "Doppelmoppel" (ich bin mir nicht sicher, ob es einer ist) wiedergeben -> "an overall approach/concept ensuring (an) integrated, interdisciplinary learning (experience)" o. ä.
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Note added at 1 hr (2011-01-29 12:55:39 GMT)
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Fortsetzung meines Kommentars zu "GET ENERGY": "... Ich hatte nach "inter- and multidisciplinary" + "learning" ohne Domain-Einschränkung gesucht." - und dabei waren die Treffer auf den ersten Seiten meist deutschsprachig bzw. zumindest keine muttersprachlichen englischen Quellen.
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Note added at 1 hr (2011-01-29 12:55:39 GMT)
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Fortsetzung meines Kommentars zu "GET ENERGY": "... Ich hatte nach "inter- and multidisciplinary" + "learning" ohne Domain-Einschränkung gesucht." - und dabei waren die Treffer auf den ersten Seiten meist deutschsprachig bzw. zumindest keine muttersprachlichen englischen Quellen.
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trans- and inter-curricular
Just to have all bases covered.
We often did this is in the school I taught at: all subjects were taught in English and there was also a project which was studied from the various perspectives of the different subjects
We often did this is in the school I taught at: all subjects were taught in English and there was also a project which was studied from the various perspectives of the different subjects
Peer comment(s):
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mary austria
: I can go with this answer or with Get Energy's.
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okay!
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Reference comments
8 Stunden
Reference:
Rahmenlehrplan Berlin Grundschule: pädagogische Begriffe
The terms are pretty clearly contrasted here and Ramey is correct in terms of the concepts. They are certainly not synonyms for a specialist audience, regardless of the fact that 99.99% of all human beings (including myself) can't keep them separate for more than a few minutes.
Anything with "-disciplinary" also seems wrong for a primary or secondary school (as opposed to university/professional) context.
In short, I don't know if Ramey's EN terms are correct because no source is provided, but they seem like the most promising.
Anything with "-disciplinary" also seems wrong for a primary or secondary school (as opposed to university/professional) context.
In short, I don't know if Ramey's EN terms are correct because no source is provided, but they seem like the most promising.
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Ramey Rieger (X)
: Yes, the idea of Transcurricular teaching is relatively new in the "Regelschule", so new words müssen her! Oh, that was fun - hope you understood!
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Thanks for reading my reference. Schade, that your answer not selected was.
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