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Glossary entry

Deutsch term or phrase:

Hauptschule, Realschule, Gymnasium

Englisch translation:

secondary school, secondary school leading to university, grammar schools (UK)

Added to glossary by davidgreen
Jul 28, 2004 09:16
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Deutsch term

Hauptschule, Realschule, Gymnasium

Deutsch > Englisch Sonstige Bildungswesen/Pädagogik school vocabulary
Again, the more I hear the less I know. The dictionary really just says "secondary school" for all of these. Anyone know the correct British English translation for these? They are listed next to each other:

"Studenten von Haupt-, Realschule und Gymnasien..."
Proposed translations (Englisch)
4 +2 students from secondary and grammar schools
4 +2 Lower Secondary School, Intermediate Secondary School, Upper Secondary School (Grammar School)
4 primary school/middle school/high school
4 comprehensive and grammar schools
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Discussion

Sarah Downing Jul 29, 2004:
I heard that Realschule can be translated as "technical secondary school" and Gymnasium as "grammar school". In the UK system Gynasium might correspond to grammar school and Realschule to secondary modern, but these no longer exist.
Christian Jul 28, 2004:
I agree with writeaway. :-)
writeaway Jul 28, 2004:
http://www.proz.com/?sp=h&id=379458&keyword=Hauptschule
http://www.proz.com/?sp=h&id=679641&keyword=Realschule
http://www.proz.com/?sp=h&id=353419&keyword=Gymnasium
Non-ProZ.com Jul 28, 2004:
Mariacarmela I don't think England uses the term "high school"
writeaway Jul 28, 2004:
Have you checked the glossaries? These terms should be there

Proposed translations

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students from secondary and grammar schools

Hauptschule=secondary school
Realschule=secondary school leading to higher education
Gymnasium=grammar school
Peer comment(s):
neutral sylvie malich (X) : However I've been told that "grammar school" has been out of use since the 60s. Besides it also leads to higher education. This is confusing. Why not leave it untranslated since the system is completely different and untranslatable without an explanation?
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agree Sabine Griebler : I think this describes German system quite well.
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agree Charles Stanford : Seems sensible and grammar schools are indeed still up and running, albeit to a lesser extent
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "I think that helps. In the end I "cheated" and put "...students fro m various types of German secondary schools." Thanks also to Annika!"
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primary school/middle school/high school

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Peer comment(s):
neutral AngieD : Hauptschule is not Primary School (=Grundschule in DE or Volksschule in AT)
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Well, secondary school leading to higher education only aims at making clear the difference to the standard secondary school and in terms of translation technique corresponds to a cultural elucidation for non-German speakers who are not familiar to the concept of a tripartite school system. As for grammar school, do you really think it has been out of use since the 60s? (please check out the grammar school homepages below - and there are many more):

Brisbane Grammar School Home Page - www.bgs.qld.edu.au/ - 8k - Im Cache - Ähnliche Seiten

Manchester Grammar School - The Manchester Grammar School is an independent day school for boys in the North of England with an international reputation for academic excellence. ...
www.mgs.org/

Welcome to Guildford Grammar School - September 23 2004 School Tour. Headmaster's Message School Governance Philosophies Location & Environment History & Tradition Academic ...
www.ggs.wa.edu.au/

Welcome to The Grammar School, Bristol, UK - Bristol Grammar School: pages for prospective, current and past pupils, updated daily; on-line School Chronicle, staff-list, Departmental information pages ...
www.bgs.bristol.sch.uk/

Ivanhoe Grammar School - Multi-campus Anglican school situated in the northern suburbs of Melbourne.
www.igs.vic.edu.au/

Sutton Grammar School - Curriculum, facilities, admissions, academic results, and general information.
www.suttongrammar.sutton.sch.uk/

Canberra Grammar School - Anglican day and boarding school for boys. Enrolments, employment, events, services, and school information.
www.cgs.act.edu.au/

Stockport Grammar School - Welcome to STOCKPORT GRAMMAR SCHOOL. Click here to enter.
www.stockportgrammar.co.uk/
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comprehensive and grammar schools

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Lower Secondary School, Intermediate Secondary School, Upper Secondary School (Grammar School)

Lower Secondary School, Intermediate Secondary School, Upper Secondary School/Grammar School

Hi David,

In Germany, there are three secondary school types:

Hauptschule - Lower Secondary School
... which leads to Hauptschulabschluss/Lower Secondary School Leaving Certificate

Realschule - Intermediate Secondary School
...which leads to "Mittlere Reife"/Intermediate (Secondary) School Leaving Certificate - equivalent to GCSE

Gymnasium - Upper Secondary School/Grammar School
... which leads to Abitur - equivalent to A-levels

I would, however, always use the German terms in a translation and offer an English explanation if possible - might be a bit difficult, though, when translating diplomas/certificates/transcripts



Peer comment(s):
agree Jennifer Hottarek : explains the difference most clearly
17 Min.
Thanks, Jennifer :-)
agree Orla Ryan
57 Min.
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