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sarandor 
Vereinigte Staaten
Local time: 11:41
Englisch > Russisch
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| Does it need any elaborating? | Feb 14, 2010 |
Krzysztof Kajetanowicz wrote:
Galia Williams wrote:
Cultural sensitivity and political correctness are new social norms that help us function in today's society, like it or not.
Care to elaborate on how political correctness helps us function in today's society?
For starters, how about by acknowledging the diversity of opinions and lifestyles and promoting tolerance and understanding.
| | | | Krzysztof Kajetanowicz (X)
Polen
Local time: 17:41
Englisch > Polnisch
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Apparently we have a different understanding of what "political correctness" is.
[Edited at 2010-02-14 18:35 GMT]
| | | | Liviu-Lee Roth
Vereinigte Staaten
Local time: 11:41
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| Dear Krzysztof, | Feb 14, 2010 |
American "political correctness" means "sugar-coating" all your remarks so they won't hurt, God forbid, somebody's self-esteem. This is the real reason we ended up with an ill-prepared generation to face real-life obstacles.
Excellent point, Tomas.
| | | | | Cooking sardines | Feb 14, 2010 |
Galia Williams wrote:
For starters, how about by acknowledging the diversity of opinions and lifestyles and promoting tolerance and understanding.
Exactly this is the kind of empty language used to make disobedience of established rules and traditions seem the best option. After living with this kind of language for two decades in Spain, I only find that it is exploited by many people to bend reality according to their personal economic interests, or, as we say in Spain, "move the ember closer to their sardine."
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Maha Arara
Katar
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Englisch > Arabisch
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THEMENSTARTER | Here is what happened so far | Feb 15, 2010 |
I told my friend while some thought it was too harsh a word, many saw that the word 'rude' is not an insult- which seemed to be a relief for her. She decided not to reply to the note. She told her child to be careful round that teacher who sees spontaneous enthusiasm once in a while as rude.
I asked her why she was so confident that her child was not actually misbehaving. She said she knew he liked to go by the rules and that ever since her child started schooling, all his teacher... See more I told my friend while some thought it was too harsh a word, many saw that the word 'rude' is not an insult- which seemed to be a relief for her. She decided not to reply to the note. She told her child to be careful round that teacher who sees spontaneous enthusiasm once in a while as rude.
I asked her why she was so confident that her child was not actually misbehaving. She said she knew he liked to go by the rules and that ever since her child started schooling, all his teachers complemented her on her child's manners- although they complained about his messy handwriting. Even this teacher who wrote the note never said anything about child's attitude except when the mother (my friend) had to communicate to her some comments (as the teacher would ask for homework to be done and keep the books with her, then blame the child for not delivering homework on time- for example). So, my friend thinks the teacher is defending herself and replying to what she saw as criticism by criticizing the child.
If was a teacher, I would use "improper behavior" or even "misbehavior" instead of "rude" if I had to express my dissatisfaction about a child's shouting out an answer without asking permission.
Also, a teacher's choice of words should not be the same for all children; some children are sensitive enough to be at least discouraged by a harsh word, while others would need such a harsh word to be disciplined.
A child deserves to be happy at school and most children will be eager to follow the rules only by being encouraged to do that. Children should not be intimidated. I believe if that teacher had enough self-confidence, she would have acted in a better way. ▲ Collapse
| | | | | Thank goodness for some plain, common sense! | Feb 15, 2010 |
Jack Doughty wrote:
If a teacher considers a child to be rude, and describes him as such, this is simply a fair statement of the teacher's opinion (which may or may not be correct), and it is not insulting (or rude) for the teacher to say this. People often see insults where no insults are intended, and this tendency seems to be increasing, which is a pity.
| | | | Blanka Salkova
Tschechische Republik
Local time: 17:41
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Heinrich Pesch wrote:
Parents nowadays are all the time defending their offspring against the teachers. Why should a teacher insult a child? If a child behaves badly, it must be corrected. Otherwise schoolwork will suffer.
Regards
Heinrich
As a teacher, I absolutely agree.
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Maha Ararat wrote:
She decided not to reply to the note. She told her child to be careful round that teacher who sees spontaneous enthusiasm once in a while as rude.
I would have told the child that it is rude to shout out answers in class, instead of suggesting it's the teacher who is a wet blanket, and I would have gone to see or at least phoned the teacher.
Failing to reply to the note in some way is effectively ignoring the teacher. Who is being rude now?
If I was the teacher, I'd certainly think the apple didn't fall far from the tree in this case.
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Lingua 5B
Bosnien und Herzegowina
Local time: 17:41
Mitglied (2009)
Englisch > Kroatisch
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| Child is their parents' reflection | Feb 15, 2010 |
Lawyer-Linguist wrote:
If I was the teacher, I'd certainly think the apple didn't fall far from the tree in this case.
Of course.
How old is the child in question anyway? Children of that age see the world (emotionally and mentally) through their parents' eyes. Therefore, the child's actions and behavior must be the reflection of their parents or the upbringing, one way or another (not absolutely 110% but with a large tendency, definitely).
"spontaneous enthusiasm" may be just a nice phrase for misbehavior and disrespect for the teacher and the school institution, or rules that must be followed. Ignoring and not approaching the problem will only make things worse, because it sends the child a message " Since I can easily get away with it, I'm gonna keep exploring social limitations and stretching the border further". If you do not draw the line for the child, the child will keep playing with where the line should be drawn. I realize this was the teacher's idea when she sent that message.
[Edited at 2010-02-15 10:19 GMT]
| | | | keelin feeney
Irland
Local time: 16:41
Mitglied (2007)
Spanisch > Englisch
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| Not an insult | Feb 15, 2010 |
I think that the obvious message here is that the teacher was not happy with the child's behaviour and sent the note to the child's parents to inform them of the behaviour.
The teacher indicated that it was a once-off incident so obviously expects the parents to tell the child not to speak out of turn again and to leave it at that. I doubt the teacher is expecting to hear anything from the parents and if so, it is just to acknowledge the note and say that they have spoken to their c... See more I think that the obvious message here is that the teacher was not happy with the child's behaviour and sent the note to the child's parents to inform them of the behaviour.
The teacher indicated that it was a once-off incident so obviously expects the parents to tell the child not to speak out of turn again and to leave it at that. I doubt the teacher is expecting to hear anything from the parents and if so, it is just to acknowledge the note and say that they have spoken to their child about it.
Teachers are not given the respect they deserve nowadays, neither by students nor parents. I wouldn't make a fuss about this as I am sure that the teacher just wants the parents to have a word with the child about behaviour in the classroom. ▲ Collapse
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