| Vom Thema belegte Seiten: < [1 2] | Have your grades ever mattered throughout your career? Initiator des Themas: Elvira Stoianov
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| Does money matter? | Feb 7, 2006 |
I investigated the matter in 1966. My sample consisted of people who had graduated from Swedish Universities and Institutes of Technology in 1934 and were domiciled in Sweden in 1964. The sample was stratified to the research objects' 1964 occupations. The annual income (1964 tax year) and the grades (1934) were correlated. Result:
Significant positive correlation: R&D, Legal, Accounting
Significant negative correlation: Sales, Marketing
No significant correlation: All O... See more I investigated the matter in 1966. My sample consisted of people who had graduated from Swedish Universities and Institutes of Technology in 1934 and were domiciled in Sweden in 1964. The sample was stratified to the research objects' 1964 occupations. The annual income (1964 tax year) and the grades (1934) were correlated. Result:
Significant positive correlation: R&D, Legal, Accounting
Significant negative correlation: Sales, Marketing
No significant correlation: All Others
Has it changed? Dont think so. ▲ Collapse
| | | | Lydia Molea 
Deutschland
Local time: 01:58
Englisch > Deutsch
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| Not really ... | Feb 7, 2006 |
I think grades matter when you're fresh out of school and go to a job interview ... what else are they going to look at if you don't have any work experience and therefore no references. However, after a few years of work experience, I think potential employers (or clients, as the case may be) tend to look at experience more than at grades. So far, no (potential) client has ever asked me for my report card. Diplomas & the court certificate saying that I'm certified yes (but those don't show grad... See more I think grades matter when you're fresh out of school and go to a job interview ... what else are they going to look at if you don't have any work experience and therefore no references. However, after a few years of work experience, I think potential employers (or clients, as the case may be) tend to look at experience more than at grades. So far, no (potential) client has ever asked me for my report card. Diplomas & the court certificate saying that I'm certified yes (but those don't show grades). ▲ Collapse
| | | | Aurora Humarán (X)
Argentinien
Local time: 20:58
Englisch > Spanisch
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since...1982.
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| | | | | It depends where you work | Feb 7, 2006 |
I started off my translation experience in a smallish company, where one of the employees said to me the day I started that grades didn't matter in the slightest. I found this to be a quite derisory remark and soon after, I got a good impression of the kind of people I'd be working with. Not exactly the brightest and culturally aware folk! Since then though, I've made several applications to larger companies and public sector organisations, and to my surprise, grades do really matter. Employers... See more I started off my translation experience in a smallish company, where one of the employees said to me the day I started that grades didn't matter in the slightest. I found this to be a quite derisory remark and soon after, I got a good impression of the kind of people I'd be working with. Not exactly the brightest and culturally aware folk! Since then though, I've made several applications to larger companies and public sector organisations, and to my surprise, grades do really matter. Employers use them a way of selecting the better candidates for entry level positions in translation departments.
As for placements in international institutions the same holds true: don't even bother applying if you haven't got top grades or something rare, such as a lesser-used language, in your profile.
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cologne
Deutschland
Local time: 01:58
Deutsch > Schwedisch
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I graduaded 5 years ago - not once has anyone been interested in my grades. I started working for a big company straight away - they asked me if I could do the job and what degree I had (the degree was irrelevant for this job). If you go straight from university to PWC and KPMG it might be helpul to have at least average grades but once you're in this business they don't look at your diploma more than just to ensure you have a degree.
| | | | Marcela MF (X)
Italien
Local time: 01:58
Englisch > Rumänisch
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| no, it' s not so important | Feb 9, 2006 |
Hello,
nobody ask me for grades, the most important things were : the quality of translation and tariffs ( in a global market).
Best wishes,
Marcela
[Edited at 2006-02-09 18:06]
| | | | Elvira Stoianov
Luxemburg
Local time: 01:58
Deutsch > Rumänisch
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THEMENSTARTER | thanks for your input | Feb 9, 2006 |
Dear Marcela,
thank you for your input, but my question was about grades, not degrees. I am aware that having a degree is useful in certain circumstances, but I was wondering how much your grades matter in the process.
| | | | | results do matter outside world of academia | Feb 11, 2006 |
Henry Hinds wrote:
The only place grades really seem to be important is in the academic world when you are pursuing advanced degrees that can certainly make the difference in employment.
In my own case I have zero academic experience in the area of translation, so by that measure I am unqualified.
From my experience, I don't think it's only in the academic world. (this is related to inhouse experience). Employers will use grades as a means of filtering out the good from the bad, especially when it comes to larger companies wanting to hire "executive" translators with just one or two years' experience. How else are they going to do it? They can't base their decision on a person's personality in the interview or on their past achievements (they could be lying) or on their potential to do the job (you can bullshit your way through the interview).
Even if they offer translation tests, your ability to do these is linked to the results you got when in university.
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Parrot
Spanien
Local time: 01:58
Spanisch > Englisch
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| Grades - at what level (context) also matters | Feb 13, 2006 |
Sorry to jump in late, I just didn't know where you were coming from, Elvira.
From the been-there-done-that point of view (initially in the academe) I can say it mattered when we were evaluating fresh BA graduates.
People who were taking, or who had taken, a second BA were queried more on their interests (what motivated them to go back, if they were specifically interested in a certain field, why, and their performance in that field - more than the weighted average, any... See more Sorry to jump in late, I just didn't know where you were coming from, Elvira.
From the been-there-done-that point of view (initially in the academe) I can say it mattered when we were evaluating fresh BA graduates.
People who were taking, or who had taken, a second BA were queried more on their interests (what motivated them to go back, if they were specifically interested in a certain field, why, and their performance in that field - more than the weighted average, anyway. When you've taken a plethora of subjects - some of them possibly irrelevant to the subject under study - it's really more important to be selective about what to evaluate).
Admission to an MA from a related second BA is usually more relaxed (even automatic) than from an unrelated BA.
People coming from an MA: I can tell you this, very few came in with poor grades. I suppose this had something to do with the survival rate in MAs, as well. In addition, some people taking MAs do so with the option of proceeding to the PhD in mind, where, as Henry has insinuated, results do matter. Thirdly, the structure of graduate school is somewhat different from the undergraduate level - contact with professors tends to be more individualised, teacher-student relationships are more mature, and the simple "pass" grades are more seldom. (I once had a colleague in the academe who said "pass" in an MA meant "was ignored". In which case she'd look at the professor's name to read between the lines).
Then, there is the level (or there are the fields) where what you did for research (plus what you may have published) is more important... but there are jobs for which track record is even more highly evaluated. So it really depends. Certainly they are not the only criteria, and past a certain stage, interviewers might not even look at your transcript. ▲ Collapse
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